Gyroscopic Investing

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm**

There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:39 pm**

Cool story Vinny

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:49 pm**

Can we get mathjak and budd on it?

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:11 pm**

joypog wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:49 pm
Can we get mathjak and budd on it?

I could invite those five other Facebook members to join us!

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:53 am**

Vinny, you’ve got me on Facebook. Can you invite me?

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:49 am**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:53 am
Vinny, you’ve got me on Facebook. Can you invite me?

Invitation sent.

But I believe anyone can join by going here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/291458589731062

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Are you using the PP?

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm**

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm
There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Are you using the PP?

Not yet. With all the money I'm spending on my house this year and all the investigation that is taking ... the Permanent Portfolio investigation has been put on the shelf.

Only want to have so much "work" going on at one time.

After I finish this post I'm going on to analyze electricity usage to come up with what size Solar installation I need.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:39 pm**

Mark me down as one who enjoyed the discussions (in all folders) more when the group consisted mainly of those who used the PP or something fairly close to it. Now it seems like those still here who do could meet in a restaurant booth. Not to say I'm against reading some dissonant thoughts, but the balance is way off. Oh well, that's life on the internet.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:49 pm**

MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:27 pm
MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Are you using the PP?
Of course he isn't.
Like I said.

I guess 3.5 years on this forum isn't enough to be convinced.

On the plus side, at least Vinny isn't here to tell us why he hates the PP, like one or two others are.

It's funny how random groups of people form on the internet. It's like a bunch of subway riders who take the same train every day for 30 years and end up going to the funerals when one dies. We are closer to that than to a PP group.

So sure, why not a Facebook Group? (I'll pass)

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:54 pm**

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:49 pm …
It's funny how random groups of people form on the internet. It's like a bunch of subway riders who take the same train every day for 30 years and end up going to the funerals when one dies. We are closer to that than to a PP group.

So sure, why not a Facebook Group? (I'll pass)

I know a random group (not on fb), like 5 people, whom I’ve been chatting with for over 17 years now. Fun. No photos, but the personalities have really come out over the years.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm**

MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:27 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm
There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Are you using the PP?

Of course he isn't.

Like I said.

I guess 3.5 years on this forum isn't enough to be convinced.

Not the issue. The issue is implementation. I have a myriad of different retirement plan, with every conceivable different tax treatment. So when I collapse them all I have to be super careful in keeping like taxation retirement vehicles one another and not mixing differently taxed ones.

Then I want to have all the next steps figured out after I implement.

It's somewhat related to having a will.

You are a husband and wife with kids. It goes first to the surviving spouse and then the children. Probably 99% are like that? I have no one my assets would naturally go to so it's all wide open for me. Takes far more time to figure that out than the traditional husband / wife with children.

I have all these various retirement accounts - Roth and Traditional layered on to 401(k)'s, IRA's, SEP-IRA, SIMPLE-IRA, Solo 401(k)'s. Non-deductible IRA's. Seems like I may be missing one or two others.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:25 pm**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm
MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:27 pm
MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm
I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm
yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

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Are you using the PP?
Of course he isn't.
Like I said.

I guess 3.5 years on this forum isn't enough to be convinced.
Not the issue. The issue is implementation. I have a myriad of different retirement plan, with every conceivable different tax treatment. So when I collapse them all I have to be super careful in keeping like taxation retirement vehicles one another and not mixing differently taxed ones.

Then I want to have all the next steps figured out after I implement.

It's somewhat related to having a will.

You are a husband and wife with kids. It goes first to the surviving spouse and then the children. Probably 99% are like that? I have no one my assets would naturally go to so it's all wide open for me. Takes far more time to figure that out than the traditional husband / wife with children.

I have all these various retirement accounts - Roth and Traditional layered on to 401(k)'s, IRA's, SEP-IRA, SIMPLE-IRA, Solo 401(k)'s. Non-deductible IRA's. Seems like I may be missing one or two others.

Golden Butterfly?

I mean, when you're ready of course.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:26 pm**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm I have all these various retirement accounts - Roth and Traditional layered on to 401(k)'s, IRA's, SEP-IRA, SIMPLE-IRA, Solo 401(k)'s. Non-deductible IRA's. Seems like I may be missing one or two others.

In the immortal words of Pokemon, "Gotta catch 'em all!"

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:10 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:25 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:27 pm

MangoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:20 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:22 pm
There is a Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. It only has six members (including me) and the below represents its second to last activity since May 29th. So clearly not an active group.

Capture.JPG

Are you using the PP?

Of course he isn't.

Like I said.

I guess 3.5 years on this forum isn't enough to be convinced.

Not the issue. The issue is implementation. I have a myriad of different retirement plan, with every conceivable different tax treatment. So when I collapse them all I have to be super careful in keeping like taxation retirement vehicles one another and not mixing differently taxed ones.

Then I want to have all the next steps figured out after I implement.

It's somewhat related to having a will.

You are a husband and wife with kids. It goes first to the surviving spouse and then the children. Probably 99% are like that? I have no one my assets would naturally go to so it's all wide open for me. Takes far more time to figure that out than the traditional husband / wife with children.

I have all these various retirement accounts - Roth and Traditional layered on to 401(k)'s, IRA's, SEP-IRA, SIMPLE-IRA, Solo 401(k)'s. Non-deductible IRA's. Seems like I may be missing one or two others.

Golden Butterfly? I mean, when you're ready of course.

I am attracted to that version of the Permanent Portfolio. The implementation will be fairly easy once I determine how many differently taxed retirement vehicles I have. Then a decision will have to be made if it gets implemented any differently for Roth / Traditional taxed ones. Which of the four belong in Roth / Traditional.

Posted: **Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:25 pm**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:10 pm I am attracted to that version of the Permanent Portfolio. The implementation will be fairly easy once I determine how many differently taxed retirement vehicles I have. Then a decision will have to be made if it gets implemented any differently for Roth / Traditional taxed ones. Which of the four belong in Roth / Traditional.

Good stuff.

I feel like once you finally adopt the PP/GB or whatever offshoot we will need to have a party.

Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:54 am**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm
I have no one my assets would naturally go to so it's all wide open for me. Takes far more time to figure that out than the traditional husband / wife with children.

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Vinny my brother, allow me to step up to the plate and volunteer to help you out of this quandry. Should I PM you my offical name, address, etc. so you can set up the necessary legal documents for when you pass? Always glad to help out.

... Mountaineer
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Posted: **Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:13 am**

Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:54 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:21 pm

I have no one my assets would naturally go to so it's all wide open for me. Takes far more time to figure that out than the traditional husband / wife with children.

.

Vinny my brother, allow me to step up to the plate and volunteer to help you out of this quandry. Should I PM you my offical name, address, etc. so you can set up the necessary legal documents for when you pass? Always glad to help out.

... Mountaineer
.

Thanks for the generous offer! However, I do have to take into account that you are my elder by three or four or five years! I may still be here while you are not!

Posted: **Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:34 am**

There was recent activity in the Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. As far as I can tell there are two of us from here who are also there.

One thing that just occurred to me is that in the Facebook Permanent Portfolio group all participants use their real names while in this forum it is rare that anyone reveals their real names. In both cases it is the same subject being discussed.

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Posted: **Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:44 am**

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:34 am There was recent activity in the Facebook Permanent Portfolio group. As far as I can tell there are two of us from here who are also there.

One thing that just occurred to me is that in the Facebook Permanent Portfolio group all participants use their real names while in this forum it is rare that anyone reveals their real names. In both cases it is the same subject being discussed.

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I saw that post... that Ray Bacon fellow is just discovering Portfolio Visualizer. They grow up so fast, eh??

P.S. he really needs to charge his phone.

Posted: **Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:28 pm**

Only the Italians on this forum give their real names for some reason.

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:44 am

P.S. he really needs to charge his phone.

He clearly didn’t hear Xan. (Was it Xan?)
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