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"The Bezzle"

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:07 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Interesting longread about the concept of "the bezzle" and economic fakery.

Why the Bezzle Matters to the Economy

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:50 pm
by whatchamacallit
I first heard about the bezzle from Emil reading this same essay I believe.

https://youtu.be/ohLzmVdeRdg

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:19 am
by Kbg
Kriegsspiel wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:07 pm Interesting longread about the concept of "the bezzle" and economic fakery.

Why the Bezzle Matters to the Economy
Excellent post, thanks! Sounds similar to Soro's theory of reflexivity.

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:55 am
by barrett
Yes, thanks for posting this! For those of you who have read the piece or are otherwise familiar with the bezzle, do you think that a PP-esque portfolio can withstand the unwinding stage? Does it follow that unwinding benefits high-quality long duration bonds? I mean, such an unwinding is deflationary, right? Or is cash potentially the big winner because of the optionality that it offers?

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:08 pm
by Kbg
barrett wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:55 am Yes, thanks for posting this! For those of you who have read the piece or are otherwise familiar with the bezzle, do you think that a PP-esque portfolio can withstand the unwinding stage? Does it follow that unwinding benefits high-quality long duration bonds? I mean, such an unwinding is deflationary, right? Or is cash potentially the big winner because of the optionality that it offers?
Calling a top is one of the most difficult things to do. It's the old shorting saying...the market can go up longer than you can remain solvent.

In PP theory, LTTs are supposed to provide that pop and they still basically do that. However, now it would take the Fed stepping in to artificially send rates lower and/or make them negative. No one in history has had to deal with what is going on now and certainly it wasn't HB's data set when he developed the PP.

Cash is always good for the exact reason you stated.

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:15 pm
by GT
Kbg wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:08 pm
barrett wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:55 am Yes, thanks for posting this! For those of you who have read the piece or are otherwise familiar with the bezzle, do you think that a PP-esque portfolio can withstand the unwinding stage? Does it follow that unwinding benefits high-quality long duration bonds? I mean, such an unwinding is deflationary, right? Or is cash potentially the big winner because of the optionality that it offers?
Calling a top is one of the most difficult things to do. It's the old shorting saying...the market can go up longer than you can remain solvent.

In PP theory, LTTs are supposed to provide that pop and they still basically do that. However, now it would take the Fed stepping in to artificially send rates lower and/or make them negative. No one in history has had to deal with what is going on now and certainly it wasn't HB's data set when he developed the PP.

Cash is always good for the exact reason you stated.
Not sure if this question should be spun off to another post .. but.. What is everyone's best guess as to what HB would be recommending if he still had his call in show?

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:09 pm
by Mountaineer
Trust not in princes. They will ALWAYS let you down.

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:58 am
by I Shrugged
GT wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:15 pm

Not sure if this question should be spun off to another post .. but.. What is everyone's best guess as to what HB would be recommending if he still had his call in show?
I've often wondered about this. I think others have too.
My best guess is that as long as the PP has not been broken, he wouldn't change it.

Re: "The Bezzle"

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:44 am
by whatchamacallit
I Shrugged wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:58 am
GT wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:15 pm

Not sure if this question should be spun off to another post .. but.. What is everyone's best guess as to what HB would be recommending if he still had his call in show?
I've often wondered about this. I think others have too.
My best guess is that as long as the PP has not been broken, he wouldn't change it.
Question is, what country would he store his gold.