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Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm
by Libertarian666
I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/

Re: Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 pm
by pp4me
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/
I was a protester of the war in Vietnam and I ended up spending a night in jail in May of 1970 after the invasion of Cambodia and the killings of students at Kent State University in Ohio. I personally assisted in that invasion hauling cargo up the Mekong River to the Cambodian border.

And the answer to your question is NO, I have never seen ANYTHING like this although there really was a lot of violence back then. Maybe the apocalypse is upon us.

Re: Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:33 pm
by yankees60
pp4me wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/
I was a protester of the war in Vietnam and I ended up spending a night in jail in May of 1970 after the invasion of Cambodia and the killings of students at Kent State University in Ohio. I personally assisted in that invasion hauling cargo up the Mekong River to the Cambodian border.

And the answer to your question is NO, I have never seen ANYTHING like this although there really was a lot of violence back then. Maybe the apocalypse is upon us.
If what you wrote is true is the only logical inference that you were in the military in May 1970? And, that when you refer to "jail" you are really referring to the military version of "jail"?

Vinny

Re: Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:51 am
by pp4me
yankees60 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:33 pm
pp4me wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/
I was a protester of the war in Vietnam and I ended up spending a night in jail in May of 1970 after the invasion of Cambodia and the killings of students at Kent State University in Ohio. I personally assisted in that invasion hauling cargo up the Mekong River to the Cambodian border.

And the answer to your question is NO, I have never seen ANYTHING like this although there really was a lot of violence back then. Maybe the apocalypse is upon us.
If what you wrote is true is the only logical inference that you were in the military in May 1970? And, that when you refer to "jail" you are really referring to the military version of "jail"?

Vinny
Yes, I was in the military in May of 1970 and had participated in making preparations for the invasion, even though I didn't know it. And no, it was not a military jail which was called The Brig. It was a civilian jail.

Re: Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:34 am
by yankees60
pp4me wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:51 am
yankees60 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:33 pm
pp4me wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/
I was a protester of the war in Vietnam and I ended up spending a night in jail in May of 1970 after the invasion of Cambodia and the killings of students at Kent State University in Ohio. I personally assisted in that invasion hauling cargo up the Mekong River to the Cambodian border.

And the answer to your question is NO, I have never seen ANYTHING like this although there really was a lot of violence back then. Maybe the apocalypse is upon us.
If what you wrote is true is the only logical inference that you were in the military in May 1970? And, that when you refer to "jail" you are really referring to the military version of "jail"?

Vinny
Yes, I was in the military in May of 1970 and had participated in making preparations for the invasion, even though I didn't know it. And no, it was not a military jail which was called The Brig. It was a civilian jail.
I was arrested and put in jail at the same time.

It was in Worcester, Massachusetts and at the time we set the record for the largest mass arrest in United States history - about 230 people. It was soon and many times later eclipsed.

I showed up at the draft board around 8:30 AM. We sat for about 3 hours inside while we were invited to leave to prevent being arrested. No on left.

They brought in buses to bring us all the jail and we were put 10 to a jail with "normal jail" people who were already in those cells.

We were not there long and then the same buses brought all to court.

Only one person had a prior arrest.

All the rest of us were charged with trespassing and given 3 months continuances. If we did not get charged with trespassing again during those three months then the charges were to be dropped and we'd have no record.

I seem to remember I was on my way walking back to school by late afternoon.

At my extremely conservative college (Worcester Polytechnic Institute) I was one of only 7 students who'd been arrested out of the 2,000 student body (composed of future mathematicians, scientists, engineers, computer scientists). Completely different story for the liberal Clark University.

Vinny

Re: Maybe they could adopt the Confederate flag?

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:26 am
by pp4me
yankees60 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:34 am
pp4me wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:51 am
yankees60 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:33 pm
pp4me wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:13 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:06 pm I don't remember anything like this happening in 1968-69. Does anyone else here know if it did?

"Antifa is reportedly seeking armed volunteers to take turns manning barricades and holding ground that protesters have seized within Seattle city limits."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... n-seattle/
I was a protester of the war in Vietnam and I ended up spending a night in jail in May of 1970 after the invasion of Cambodia and the killings of students at Kent State University in Ohio. I personally assisted in that invasion hauling cargo up the Mekong River to the Cambodian border.

And the answer to your question is NO, I have never seen ANYTHING like this although there really was a lot of violence back then. Maybe the apocalypse is upon us.
If what you wrote is true is the only logical inference that you were in the military in May 1970? And, that when you refer to "jail" you are really referring to the military version of "jail"?

Vinny
Yes, I was in the military in May of 1970 and had participated in making preparations for the invasion, even though I didn't know it. And no, it was not a military jail which was called The Brig. It was a civilian jail.
I was arrested and put in jail at the same time.

It was in Worcester, Massachusetts and at the time we set the record for the largest mass arrest in United States history - about 230 people. It was soon and many times later eclipsed.

I showed up at the draft board around 8:30 AM. We sat for about 3 hours inside while we were invited to leave to prevent being arrested. No on left.

They brought in buses to bring us all the jail and we were put 10 to a jail with "normal jail" people who were already in those cells.

We were not there long and then the same buses brought all to court.

Only one person had a prior arrest.

All the rest of us were charged with trespassing and given 3 months continuances. If we did not get charged with trespassing again during those three months then the charges were to be dropped and we'd have no record.

I seem to remember I was on my way walking back to school by late afternoon.

At my extremely conservative college (Worcester Polytechnic Institute) I was one of only 7 students who'd been arrested out of the 2,000 student body (composed of future mathematicians, scientists, engineers, computer scientists). Completely different story for the liberal Clark University.

Vinny
I only spent one night in a large jail cell along with a bunch of hippies who were passing around joints which made it tolerable. Charges were eventually dropped when I agreed to a settlement of $1 for a false arrest. It wasn't really a false arrest but it was easy enough to argue because the arrest location was the off campus rooming house where I was staying which just happened to belong to my parents. Truth was, the police had chased me down the alley on my way there and had to come up on the property to arrest me. With all the chaos they must have decided it wasn't worth the trouble to investigate further and prosecute, especially since I was a Vietnam vet just home on leave.

In regards to the Cambodian invasion I was watching a documentary about it the other day and that was the first time I realized that the protests might have done more harm than good. Although it was portrayed as an invasion with the purpose of widening the war into Cambodia and Laos, the truth was that it was part of Nixon's Vietnam exit strategy to take out a North Vietnamese regiment that was being assembled for the planned invasion of the South as soon as we left. The idea was to give the South Vietnamese forces a fighting chance to defend themselves from the coming onslaught which, given what happened, wasn't such a bad strategy. In the documentary a group of special forces made it all the way to the compound which they could have easily destroyed but before attacking they were ordered to stand down.

My part in the whole fiasco was delivering the supplies and ammunition those special forces were carrying via a small ship on the Mekong River, all the way to the Cambodian border and perhaps beyond. As for the "beyond" part, they didn't have a sign that said you are now entering Cambodia so I guess I'll never know for sure but I was the keeper of the charts and the ship's log and I was told to put both away.

(BTW, the university was Ohio State, just down the road from Kent State).