A good analysis of the rioting
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:21 pm
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I like that guy. He’s the one kriegs posts sometimes.
A youtuber I watch (Garand Thumb) usually starts out his videos with some kind of humorous warning about how his comments section is an absolute dumpster fire.
Most of them are.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:59 amA youtuber I watch (Garand Thumb) usually starts out his videos with some kind of humorous warning about how his comments section is an absolute dumpster fire.
You JUST noticed that??!!! He's been doing it consistently for at least three decades. Treating all his listeners as kindergarteners!
My bad. I forgot to contact you about it in 1990.
He has repeated a version of that same falsehood much more recently (2008) when he claimed that his father was a coal miner. And he has lied many other times about his life experiences: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... r-happenedWiseOne wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:30 pm I remember something about Biden plagiarizing a speech from a British politician in the 1980s. That was much more than a contemporaneous error and thus infinitely more serious. The speech contained a detailed account of the British politician's personal life history, and Biden repeated it word for word, substituting his own family member and himself for the main characters.
That event buried him as a presidential candidate at the time, deservedly.
Here's a reference to it:
https://news.sky.com/story/the-neil-kin ... d-11703552
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:59 am A youtuber I watch (Garand Thumb) usually starts out his videos with some kind of humorous warning about how his comments section is an absolute dumpster fire.
The guy who disarmed the rioter was on Garand Thumb a couple days agodualstow wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 8:00 am Rioter finds AR-15 in a police vehicle
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1 ... 23814?s=20
WRT the LA riots of 1992, which caused $1.42 billion in today's dollars:Keefe, Bruyette & Woods analyst Meyer Shields said Monday that his best guess is losses from the current riots will be “relatively modest.” Nevertheless, the losses will combine with losses related to COVID-19 claims and property damage from a predicted above-average hurricane season to amount to a “capital event” for some reinsurers. link
“Economic activity in the areas affected didn’t return for at least 10 years,” Matheson said. At least not to previous levels. He said those riots cost almost $5 billion in economic activity measured in lost sales over 10 years. “If people don’t feel safe where their businesses are, then they don’t feel a need to rebuild.” link
The current, ongoing rioting is happening in multiple cities across numerous states, so it’s easy to see how losses could already be running into the billions of dollars.
Of course, this remains uncertain as no loss data is currently available, but there’s clearly potential for this to become a meaningful man-made loss for the re/insurance industry. link
I'm guessing WRT in this context is the first one listed below? And LA is Los Angeles, not Lower Alabama?Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:31 pm
WRT the LA riots of 1992, which caused $1.42 billion in today's dollars:
I don't watch the news, I just check Trump's Twitter and listen to his press conferences. That's enough to convince me of his lack of leadership ability. Biden is about the worst candidate the Democrats could have chosen from the enormous field of contenders.....at this point though I'd vote for an overcooked piece of asparagus over Trump. Again, the great irony is that I actually agree with a lot of Trump's ideas and policies, I just think that he is so absolutely horrible at communicating them and is such a vile human being that he is doing more damage than good at the end of the day. For an example of the communication that is necessary regarding this topic i'd urge you to listen to Sam Harris's latest podcast on this topic of police brutality, race relations and rioting. Completely fact based and non incendiary...I'd be surprised if anyone here disagreed with his message...in fact I think Trump would agree with much of it...but it's the tone and nature of it's delivery that makes all the difference.pp4me wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:08 am IMO polls this early before the election are for entertainment value only.
If you weren't paying detailed attention to the news and just picking up the headlines or hearing what others are saying how could you not think Trump is the worse disaster in American history? I could start to believe it myself unless I tuned into Fox News occasionally to get the other side of the story.
Eventually people will have to start taking a harder look at Biden to see if they really want this guy as president. Until that happens, I think all you're seeing is how effective the non-stop anti-Trump narrative is.
I've actually been a fan of Sam Harris when he's talking about religion or science. Not so much politics.doodle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:32 amI don't watch the news, I just check Trump's Twitter and listen to his press conferences. That's enough to convince me of his lack of leadership ability. Biden is about the worst candidate the Democrats could have chosen from the enormous field of contenders.....at this point though I'd vote for an overcooked piece of asparagus over Trump. Again, the great irony is that I actually agree with a lot of Trump's ideas and policies, I just think that he is so absolutely horrible at communicating them and is such a vile human being that he is doing more damage than good at the end of the day. For an example of the communication that is necessary regarding this topic i'd urge you to listen to Sam Harris's latest podcast on this topic of police brutality, race relations and rioting. Completely fact based and non incendiary...I'd be surprised if anyone here disagreed with his message...in fact I think Trump would agree with much of it...but it's the tone and nature of it's delivery that makes all the difference.pp4me wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:08 am IMO polls this early before the election are for entertainment value only.
If you weren't paying detailed attention to the news and just picking up the headlines or hearing what others are saying how could you not think Trump is the worse disaster in American history? I could start to believe it myself unless I tuned into Fox News occasionally to get the other side of the story.
Eventually people will have to start taking a harder look at Biden to see if they really want this guy as president. Until that happens, I think all you're seeing is how effective the non-stop anti-Trump narrative is.
https://youtu.be/vmgxtcbc4iU
I think we're living on different planets. I haven't seen one single action that Trump has taken that appears authoritarian, fascist, xenophobic, or hate mongering. Could you provide an example?doodle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:33 am I personally admire the intellectual honesty of Sam Harris in so far as he seems to be a very ardent advocate for the truth. In this regard I have never seen him address an issue from the standpoint of having a personal agenda other than to have conversation based on facts, and when it strays from facts to philosophy to specifically highlight that the conversation has taken this turn. In addition Sam Harris is never one to shy away from difficult conversations that might generate a lot of criticism from the political left and in this specific podcast linked above he frequently highlights the incredible dangers of the politically "woke" left shutting down honest but difficult dialogue regarding the facts. It is this type of mature dialogue that this country needs in order to solve difficult issues. Trump in my view is simply the other side of the coin of the extreme left and equally as damaging to intelligent and honest discourse.
Sam Harris has been a vocal critic of Trump since before the election. I think the reasons behind his worries about Trump are well founded and shared by many other level headed individuals. I'm not really sure why so many American's have trouble seeing the authoritarian, fascist, xenophobic, hate mongering aspects of Trump as a true danger to our nations best interests. I guess people gather different impressions of individuals based on their particular life experiences. I am no fan of Biden and the political left is a grave concern to me. One of my favorite popular lecturers today is Jordan Peterson and so in no way way do I underestimate the dangers coming from the liberal side of the political spectrum. But I view Trump as a character who is literally capable of hurling the planet into another world war. I honestly group him into the same category of human as a Fidel Castro, Benito Mussolini, or Mao Zedong.
I like Jordan Peterson too. I was really sorry to hear about his recent problem with addiction to a drug he was taking for his auto-immune condition. Hope he gets better soon.doodle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:33 am I personally admire the intellectual honesty of Sam Harris in so far as he seems to be a very ardent advocate for the truth. In this regard I have never seen him address an issue from the standpoint of having a personal agenda other than to have conversation based on facts, and when it strays from facts to philosophy to specifically highlight that the conversation has taken this turn. In addition Sam Harris is never one to shy away from difficult conversations that might generate a lot of criticism from the political left and in this specific podcast linked above he frequently highlights the incredible dangers of the politically "woke" left shutting down honest but difficult dialogue regarding the facts. It is this type of mature dialogue that this country needs in order to solve difficult issues. Trump in my view is simply the other side of the coin of the extreme left and equally as damaging to intelligent and honest discourse.
Sam Harris has been a vocal critic of Trump since before the election. I think the reasons behind his worries about Trump are well founded and shared by many other level headed individuals. I'm not really sure why so many American's have trouble seeing the authoritarian, fascist, xenophobic, hate mongering aspects of Trump as a true danger to our nations best interests. I guess people gather different impressions of individuals based on their particular life experiences. I am no fan of Biden and the political left is a grave concern to me. One of my favorite popular lecturers today is Jordan Peterson and so in no way way do I underestimate the dangers coming from the liberal side of the political spectrum. But I view Trump as a character who is literally capable of hurling the planet into another world war. I honestly group him into the same category of human as a Fidel Castro, Benito Mussolini, or Mao Zedong.
The actions of the extreme left are scary. Donald Trump is not helping matters in the regard that I believe he is increasing their rise. We need moderation, he is not moderate in any regard. Fighting fire with fire is going to leave everyone burned.pp4me wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:01 pmI like Jordan Peterson too. I was really sorry to hear about his recent problem with addiction to a drug he was taking for his auto-immune condition. Hope he gets better soon.doodle wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:33 am I personally admire the intellectual honesty of Sam Harris in so far as he seems to be a very ardent advocate for the truth. In this regard I have never seen him address an issue from the standpoint of having a personal agenda other than to have conversation based on facts, and when it strays from facts to philosophy to specifically highlight that the conversation has taken this turn. In addition Sam Harris is never one to shy away from difficult conversations that might generate a lot of criticism from the political left and in this specific podcast linked above he frequently highlights the incredible dangers of the politically "woke" left shutting down honest but difficult dialogue regarding the facts. It is this type of mature dialogue that this country needs in order to solve difficult issues. Trump in my view is simply the other side of the coin of the extreme left and equally as damaging to intelligent and honest discourse.
Sam Harris has been a vocal critic of Trump since before the election. I think the reasons behind his worries about Trump are well founded and shared by many other level headed individuals. I'm not really sure why so many American's have trouble seeing the authoritarian, fascist, xenophobic, hate mongering aspects of Trump as a true danger to our nations best interests. I guess people gather different impressions of individuals based on their particular life experiences. I am no fan of Biden and the political left is a grave concern to me. One of my favorite popular lecturers today is Jordan Peterson and so in no way way do I underestimate the dangers coming from the liberal side of the political spectrum. But I view Trump as a character who is literally capable of hurling the planet into another world war. I honestly group him into the same category of human as a Fidel Castro, Benito Mussolini, or Mao Zedong.
Like I said though - lesser of two evils. We are seeing concrete evidence of authoritarianism on the left as we speak with Antifa egging on riots in the streets and people being "canceled" for expressing prohibited opinions. Biden seems to be fine with all of this. I'm hard pressed to find much of anything smacking of the same kind of authoritarianism on the right. If you don't mind my asking, what has Trump actually done, beyond tweeting, that would cause you to equate him with the worse dictators in history?