Dealing With Setbacks in Life

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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by ochotona » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:00 pm

Doesn't Vancouver have a reasonably good public transit system? I'm not understanding the needing to corral family and friends carpools. Down here in Houston, yes... but Vancouver? Where do you live (approximately), where do you work (approximately)? Disclosure - I am a transit geek.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by geaux saints » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:03 pm

Smith,

I don't have any good advice (or bad advice, for that matter) for you; I just wanted to let you know that I am pulling for you and that you seem like the caliber of person who will get through this just fine. I hope you will keep us posted!
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Smith1776 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:07 pm

ochotona wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:00 pm
Doesn't Vancouver have a reasonably good public transit system? I'm not understanding the needing to corral family and friends carpools. Down here in Houston, yes... but Vancouver? Where do you live (approximately), where do you work (approximately)? Disclosure - I am a transit geek.
I will PM you so as to not reveal too much information publicly.

Long story short, I have a very weird work and lifestyle and traveling constantly is a big part of it. In addition to my regular job I am also a performer in music, stand up comedy, and theatre. I will have to recalibrate what I can reasonably expect to do for a while.
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Smith,

I don't have any good advice (or bad advice, for that matter) for you; I just wanted to let you know that I am pulling for you and that you seem like the caliber of person who will get through this just fine. I hope you will keep us posted!
Thank you. I really appreciate the thoughts and support. I am unsure of what I am going to do, but I am trying my best to stay composed.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by vnatale » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:37 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:02 pm
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I agree with Stuper. Taking your license away for 5 months for what amounts to cell phone violations seems extreme. A good lawyer that deals with traffic offenses (maybe a DUI guy?) should be able to get you off with some fines and a hefty legal bill.
I sure hope that this is the case. I have talked to several lawyers this afternoon. The consensus seems to be that through a professional legal defence, a reduction to a two month ban is a reasonable expectation. Maybe 3; maybe 1; maybe even revoked entirely if i'm extremely lucky.

Still, the prices quoted have been all over the map and I don't know how to ascertain "value" for the dollar I am spending. So far I've been quoted everything from $2,500 for a senior lawyer to $500 for an articled student.
There is that saying, "You get what you pay for." But not always true in the case of professional services. That $500 option could possibly provide equal or better services than the $2,500. Or, maybe not.

I just found this after a quick Bing search: https://www.jonwelbornlaw.com/7-things- ... et-lawyer/.

I'd encourage you to do a more thorough search.

And, I am astounded at the severity of the penalty compared to the actual violations.

Getting back to the lawyer search....I'd also talk / email / communicate with everyone you can to tell them your situation to see if you can get any recommendations based upon their personal experience.

Good luck! Hoping for the best for you: Least legal fees plus the entire thing revoked!

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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Smith1776 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:11 pm

vnatale wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:37 pm
There is that saying, "You get what you pay for." But not always true in the case of professional services. That $500 option could possibly provide equal or better services than the $2,500. Or, maybe not.

I just found this after a quick Bing search: https://www.jonwelbornlaw.com/7-things- ... et-lawyer/.

I'd encourage you to do a more thorough search.

And, I am astounded at the severity of the penalty compared to the actual violations.

Getting back to the lawyer search....I'd also talk / email / communicate with everyone you can to tell them your situation to see if you can get any recommendations based upon their personal experience.

Good luck! Hoping for the best for you: Least legal fees plus the entire thing revoked!

Vinny
Thank you for the kind words.

I am coming to a tentative conclusion that, beyond experience, one of the key factors to consider with hiring a lawyer is how much time they spend with you. The more time they spend with you and talking to you, the more they can personalize their argument to your particular circumstances. This is in contrast to a lawyer that simply uses boiler plate arguments to defend you.

I am now calling back many of the lawyers I have spoken with to ask them this key question.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by dualstow » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:31 pm

Missed this whole thread until tonight.

Keep us posted, Smithers, and good luck!
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Tortoise » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:16 pm

Buy a good road bike and commute with your quads, bro.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Smith1776 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:09 am

Tortoise wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:16 pm
Buy a good road bike and commute with your quads, bro.
I appreciate the suggestion, but the time it would take for me to bike to and from work would be totally unfeasible. It would be like a doing a marathon everyday, where travel times exceeded even the length of my shifts. Not practical unfortunately.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Tortoise » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:05 am

It was mostly a tongue-in-cheek suggestion. I figured your commutes were probably way too far for cycling to be feasible.

Best of luck fighting the citations or figuring out how to deal with the 5 months without a driver’s license. That would stress me out, too.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by sophie » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:15 pm

Sorry to hear that Smith, it is a little shocking how heavy handed that judgment is.

For $500 I think I'd go the lawyer route to get 3 months shaved off that suspension, but I'm not sure I'd do it for $2500. That buys a lot of rideshares. Have you checked into ridesharing in Vancouver lately? I heard they're finally allowing Uber and Lyft in. And, Vancouver has a pretty good public transportation system, which I've also used.

Why don't you turn this major downer (and believe me, the lawyer route will NOT be fun) into a positive exploration of how to get around in Vancouver without a car? Biking, taxi, rideshares, bus, trains, walking etc are all out there for you to discover. The city even has bike sharing (like NYC does) so you don't necessarily have to buy or store a bike. And, rideshare companies typically have frequent-flier type passes which help limit the costs.

Who knows, you may end up deciding you don't need a car after all! That's already a financially realistic choice in many cities - certainly here in NYC, but also (surprisingly) in Los Angeles, where many people have just given up trying to drive due to the insane levels of congestion. And Vancouver is also known as a city that is car-free-compatible.
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by boglerdude » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:17 pm

The judge will let you drive if you need to for work. Maybe ask on Nextdoor for a lawyer rec.

Also public transit + ebike/scooter. And/or walking, it might be easier than you think to walk a couple miles, and you'll lose weight
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Re: Dealing With Setbacks in Life

Post by Smith1776 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:33 am

Just a quick post about how my situation so far:

1) I have often thought to myself: the things in life that seem like they'll be so great, are often not that great when you finally achieve/acquire them. And the things in life that you think are so bad, are often not that bad once they've actually happened. I have to say that this is indeed the case with this license suspension. I've had to make some adjustments, but the world didn't end. I am still living and breathing, and I am still pursuing my goals. Life just sort of goes on.

2) I have experienced an outpouring of generosity from friends and family offering to help me. Honestly, this incident has made me feel more loved than my last birthday party, special event, etc. This has spurred me on to wanting to pay this generosity forward next time someone needs help. I am incredibly grateful to everyone offering to lend me a hand.

3) Waiting before hiring a lawyer has been a good call. After the initial panic, I am able to make a more rational decision now that I have better perspective.

Will let you guys know how this develops over time. ^-^
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