Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:56 pm
I know that picture is in jest, and it’s funny, but it eerily reminds me of citizens reporting each other in 1984.
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If I had to go to the bathroom after a long trip, and they said I couldn't use their bathroom, I'd just go on the side of the building (if you gotta go you gotta go). Then refuse to deliver to them anymore. So, I guess I'd behave exactly like these guys are. Very unimaginativedualstow wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:20 pm Some companies are asking drivers to stay in their trucks or to not use their bathroom. Some drivers are turning down deliveries to states such as Washington or New York that are coronavirus hot spots.
— WSJ, ‘ Grocers Stopped Stockpiling Food. Then Came Coronavirus.’
Can you imagine being a truck driver, bringing food to a grocer and then being denied a bathroom?
Maybe it’s the suppliers and not the receivers who are doing that. Still.
What if it's #2? :-OKriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:10 amIf I had to go to the bathroom after a long trip, and they said I couldn't use their bathroom, I'd just go on the side of the building (if you gotta go you gotta go). Then refuse to deliver to them anymore. So, I guess I'd behave exactly like these guys are. Very unimaginativedualstow wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:20 pm Some companies are asking drivers to stay in their trucks or to not use their bathroom. Some drivers are turning down deliveries to states such as Washington or New York that are coronavirus hot spots.
— WSJ, ‘ Grocers Stopped Stockpiling Food. Then Came Coronavirus.’
Can you imagine being a truck driver, bringing food to a grocer and then being denied a bathroom?
Maybe it’s the suppliers and not the receivers who are doing that. Still.![]()
The part about Descartes and Fermat threw me, I thought the Arabs invented algebra, or at least kept the knowledge alive while Europe was Dark Aging it?For mathematics, 1666 was the Annus Mirabilis (“wonderous year”). For the rest of humanity, it was pretty terrible. The plague once again burnt across Europe [1]. Cambridge University closed its doors and Issac Newton moved home.
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With nothing better to do while quarantined at the family home, Newton settled back into the study of math and physics and, it turns out, ignited several world-changing revolutions in the process. Newton cracked open a 1000 page notebook he had inherited from his stepfather and got to work, recording his thoughts as he went. After reading Euclid’s Elements (still the gold standard after nearly 2,000 years!), Descartes, and the other books he had on hand, Newton began posing ever harder questions for himself which he then solved, inventing new math along the way.
[1] The plague hit London no less than six times between 1563 and 1665, killing 10-30% of the population each time. The horror of it is unimaginable.
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After all, it was only thirty years earlier that Descartes and Fermat had introduced the notion of using letters (like x and y) for unknowns
That doesn't fix the hospital crush in places like NY, but it does invalidate the worst-case models based on a much higher morbidity rates. And it would also mean that many people are already immune and just don't know it.According to a team from Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease lab, half of the population of the United Kingdom may have already been infected with the coronavirus. If this modeling is confirmed in follow-up studies, that would mean that fewer than .01 percent of those infected require hospital treatment, with a majority showing very minor symptoms, or none at all. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03 ... f-u-k.html
Wouldn't it be great to have a home test to find this out right NOW for yourself and your family!
Not sure how they figured that, but if true it would be awesome. I have noticed that the percentage of cases requiring hospitalizations in NY state dropped dramatically after the state ramped up testing, from 15% last week to 3% of active cases this AM. That's a very big difference. Early on, projections were around 20% or more requiring hospitalization.Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:40 am Apologies if this has been posted already, but here's a (potential) positive development:
A recent Oxford study estimates more than half of the UK has already been infected. That sounds bad, but (if true) is actually great news:
That doesn't fix the hospital crush in places like NY, but it does invalidate the worst-case models based on a much higher morbidity rates. And it would also mean that many people are already immune and just don't know it.According to a team from Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease lab, half of the population of the United Kingdom may have already been infected with the coronavirus. If this modeling is confirmed in follow-up studies, that would mean that fewer than .01 percent of those infected require hospital treatment, with a majority showing very minor symptoms, or none at all. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03 ... f-u-k.html
Why Germany’s Coronavirus Death Rate is Far Lower than in Other Countries
because of his country's ability to test early and often.
Sometimes small town livin pays off.WiseOne wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:45 pm I also think it will not be as bad in most areas of the country as it is in NYC. In NYC, many people spend a bit of every day packed into subway cars, elevators, buses, and trains like sardines, and they spend much more time in public spaces like parks, the sidewalk etc. In this respect we are similar to Italy where people aren't much into "personal space" - in fact, NYC's cultural heritage IS in no small part from Italy. That is not how it is in most places. It's not surprising that a bug like this would spread like wildfire here.
Somewhere here today I stated that our county is about 800 square miles with a population of about 71,000. I live on 0.40 acre plot of land. Maybe average or on the small side for this neighborhood. Little public transportation aside from some buses. Almost all of us get around via our cars.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:16 pmSometimes small town livin pays off.WiseOne wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:45 pm I also think it will not be as bad in most areas of the country as it is in NYC. In NYC, many people spend a bit of every day packed into subway cars, elevators, buses, and trains like sardines, and they spend much more time in public spaces like parks, the sidewalk etc. In this respect we are similar to Italy where people aren't much into "personal space" - in fact, NYC's cultural heritage IS in no small part from Italy. That is not how it is in most places. It's not surprising that a bug like this would spread like wildfire here.
I don't know the size of my county but the 2010 census showed it as having 35k people. I think it's probably gone up quite a bit since then, based on the traffic.yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:24 pmSomewhere here today I stated that our county is about 800 square miles with a population of about 71,000. I live on 0.40 acre plot of land. Maybe average or on the small side for this neighborhood. Little public transportation aside from some buses. Almost all of us get around via our cars.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:16 pmSometimes small town livin pays off.WiseOne wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:45 pm I also think it will not be as bad in most areas of the country as it is in NYC. In NYC, many people spend a bit of every day packed into subway cars, elevators, buses, and trains like sardines, and they spend much more time in public spaces like parks, the sidewalk etc. In this respect we are similar to Italy where people aren't much into "personal space" - in fact, NYC's cultural heritage IS in no small part from Italy. That is not how it is in most places. It's not surprising that a bug like this would spread like wildfire here.
Where WiseOne lives there are 27,000 people per square mile??!! Roughly 300 times as dense as where I live? (Just doing rough calculations in my head..)
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