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Re: On Political Labels

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:16 pm
by stone
Sorry if this chart has already been linked, I haven't read the whole thread:
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I agree with that analysis I think. To have a prosperous happy society you need everyone to be able to make full use of their talents and to be able to choose their own way. That requires a certain amount of coordination and redistribution. It is a very difficult balancing act. People need to be able to deal with thousands of other people and yet to be kept from exploiting or oppressing.

Re: On Political Labels

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:36 am
by Libertarian666
MachineGhost wrote: I dunno -- you're making my brain hurt -- all I know is the simple map I posted is the current political sandbox that we all play in.  It's just a game.

Maybe someone can come up with a better map that combines both the history of statism to non-statism along with current political positions that respect left and right tilts.  In PS's map, putting Bush, Obama and Paul all close together is just nonsense.  Obama is way more socially liberal than either Bush or Paul.  I don't like Bush or Paul because they're socially restrictive control freaks.  I don't feel like elaborating, but Paul is a Republican NOT a Libertarian.  People conflate that endlessly just because he's more capitalist and anti-war than the NeoCons.
I'm sorry, but Ron Paul is a libertarian, because he believes in political and economic freedom. His Christianity is personal, not political; that is, he has beliefs about what is morally right but doesn't wish to impose those beliefs on others who are peaceful.