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Reub wrote: As usual, short on logic. Wrong on facts, Fred. Releasing 5 mini Bin Ladens undoes any street cred that the "O" might have accumulated for agreeing to do the obvious in the past.

TennPaGa wrote: My guess is these troops were attacked because THE U.S. MILITARY IS IN THEIR COUNTRY KILLING THEIR CITIZENS.  I would think that is sufficient emboldening juice.

Pointedstick wrote:

TennPaGa wrote: My guess is these troops were attacked because THE U.S. MILITARY IS IN THEIR COUNTRY KILLING THEIR CITIZENS.  I would think that is sufficient emboldening juice.

No no, clearly they hate us for our freedoms. The fact that we've spent the last 12 years destroying their country obviously has nothing to do with it, you commie traitor.

Pointedstick wrote: Who is apologizing for the Taliban? It just seems plain as day that if you invade a country, people there who may be religious extremists (as the Taliban are) will shoot at you. When you shoot back, you risk friendly fire incidents, as they do when they attack as well.

Am I missing something?

MachineGhost wrote:

Pointedstick wrote: Who is apologizing for the Taliban? It just seems plain as day that if you invade a country, people there who may be religious extremists (as the Taliban are) will shoot at you. When you shoot back, you risk friendly fire incidents, as they do when they attack as well.

Am I missing something?

I think maybe you're missing the context of why we invaded Afghanistan.  Not saying I agree with the decision, but there was more going on than just retaliation for 09/11.  Human rights were being abused, to say the least.  I mean you can't ignore the benefits of living in "Rome" and then decry too loudly what it must do to keep its lofty position.  If you feel as strongly as I do that the invasion was a huge mistake, then don't join the military so you don't have to go around liberating oppressed people.  You create your own reality.

Tyler wrote:

clacy wrote: Now that he's freed, his desertion can be investigated and maybe he'll be charged.

You really think a president who broke laws to bring him back and took pictures like this with his family will allow him to be prosecuted and put back in a cell?

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Kshartle wrote:

Tyler wrote:

clacy wrote: Now that he's freed, his desertion can be investigated and maybe he'll be charged.

You really think a president who broke laws to bring him back and took pictures like this with his family will allow him to be prosecuted and put back in a cell?

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Obama would put his mother on trial for giving birth to him if he thought he better off for it by one penny. They guy has not a shred of morality.

Here’s a few, according to Reiss’ book:

After the North Koreans captured the U.S.S. Pueblo in 1968, President Lyndon Johnson apologized for spying as part of negotiations to secure the release of 83 American prisoners.

In 1970, President Richard Nixon pressured Israel, Switzerland, West Germany and Britain to release Palestinian prisoners after two airlines were hijacked by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

During the Iran hostage crisis of 1979 to 1981, President Jimmy Carter agreed to unfreeze $8 billion in frozen Iranian assets after more than a year of negotiations with the Iranian revolutionaries.

In perhaps the most famous swap, after seven Americans were captured in Beirut, Lebanon, President Ronald Reagan agreed to send missiles to Iran in what became known as the Iran-Contra scandal.

President Bill Clinton’s administration sat down with Hamas in attempts to negotiate peace with Israel. His administration also worked directly with the Taliban nearly two decades ago on several occasions to see if the group would hand over Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders.

Reiss also noted that President George W. Bush engaged in negotiations with Iran and North Korea even after decreeing them part of the "Axis of Evil."

Reub wrote: The way that Obama leaves a country condemns them to a death sentence. Very sad!

Reub wrote: Bush's decision to go in there was a ridiculous blunder. Obama's decision to abandon the place was at least equally bad.

Reub wrote: Don't be blinded. That country was relatively tame when we left....without leaving a residual force behind. That was the key. Obama had been warned about this and left anyway. He has no conscience.

Reub wrote: Bush's decision to go in there was a ridiculous blunder.