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Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:03 pm
by mathjak107
What I said stands ....despite any attempt at pathetic comparisons

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:40 pm
by Mark Leavy
mathjak107 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:03 pm What I said stands ....despite any attempt at pathetic comparisons
When people tell me who they are, I believe them.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:37 pm
by SomeDude
Mark Leavy wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:03 pm
mathjak107 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:19 pm Great , at least now in New York those who wanted to ride everyone else’s coattails back to a normal life , letting everyone else take the risks of vaccination will have to be inconvenienced with constant testing to do many things.

Love it ..those who don’t want to get vaccinated don’t have to ...but they will spend their time constantly have to retest so they can prove to the rest of the population they are safe .

I love it ....

Wait , I have to do my happy dance

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2 ... -new-york/
You know, you're a pretty fucked up dude, Mathjak.
See my comment from a ways back Mark. The members of the covid religion support pure anti human evil. Most try hard to cloak out under some BS pretend concern. Others don't even bother.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:59 am
by murphy_p_t
+1

There's not even the claim that these experimental injections will stop the spread of Wuhan. Furthermore, evidence shows the injection is more deadly than the disease.

In spite of this, The vindictive (fill in the blank) are bitter that everyone else doesn't want to join their cult and submit to the Grand experiment.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:01 am
by mathjak107
Exactly ...this is like fighting a war ...if you want to go cower in fear and not help fight the virus then feel free to do so ..that does not mean the rest of us who risk it won’t look down on you as part of the problem and not part off the solution ..it is what it is.

So go cower in fear and the rest of us will take the risk of the vaccination as a potential way of getting all our lives back to normal.

So far more than half a billion world wide have joined the fight with more than a million a day joining the cause getting vaccinated,those numbers are going to soar as other ages are opened up .


Seems like the real cult is on your side of things

You ‘re welcome

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:47 am
by murphy_p_t
There's not even the claim that these experimental injections will stop the spread of Wuhan

What do you imagine you're fighting?

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:51 am
by mathjak107
Fighting not to get sick or have anymore die from the evil virus ...fighting to hug our kids and grand kids , hug our parents without fear of being hospitalized and fighting not to get so sick as we were again.

Listen you can argue till the cows come home but it is falling on deaf ears ..I lived this virus , I lost family To it ..I have family dealing with it now ..

Don’t want to help so be it l.but ii do hope there are inconveniences put in place for those who cower

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:55 am
by glennds
Mark Leavy wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:03 pm

You know, you're a pretty fucked up dude, Mathjak.
A little uncalled for, don't you think?

Even if I don't agree with Mathjak, I can understand his logic, especially given how COVID has impacted his personal circle.
I also understand the inherent conflict between individualism and public health, in the context of communicable disease. Not easily resolved.
Personal insults don't strengthen your argument.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:18 am
by murphy_p_t
The vindictiveness invites the candid opinion

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:22 am
by mathjak107
It is not vindictive. It is fact , it is truth and truly is how I feel about the situation...one is either part of the solution or part of the problem ...those part of the problem need to prove their cult is safe enough to be with others ..

Those vaccinated will likely not bring bad sickness to others as far as data shows right now..those unvaccinated certainly can bring severe illness to others not vaccinated..so which group needs to be isolated until proven safe ?

Hint , it ain’t those vaccinated

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:28 am
by murphy_p_t
Those vaccinated will likely not bring bad sickness to others as far as data shows right now..

Please provide a reference

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:29 am
by mathjak107
You want to see it google it ..there are enough studies that show vaccination works .it cuts viral load spewed and reduces the effects of what you get

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 am
by murphy_p_t
Little fauci told me I need to continue wearing a face diaper even if I submit to his medical experiment... Because I'm still a threat to those around me

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:33 am
by murphy_p_t
mathjak107 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:19 pm Great , at least now in New York those who wanted to ride everyone else’s coattails back to a normal life , letting everyone else take the risks of vaccination will have to be inconvenienced with constant testing to do many things.

Love it ..those who don’t want to get vaccinated don’t have to ...but they will spend their time constantly have to retest so they can prove to the rest of the population they are safe .

I love it ....

Wait , I have to do my happy dance

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2 ... -new-york/
vindictive adjective

vin·​dic·​tive | \ vin-ˈdik-tiv \
Definition of vindictive
1a: disposed to seek revenge : VENGEFUL
b: intended for or involving revenge
2: intended to cause anguish or hurt : SPITEFUL

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:34 am
by mathjak107
It all depends what level of protection you want .

Do you want near 100% , then wear a mask . Is minor illness okay with you , then don’t wear a mask ....

Why does a car have air bags if seat belts work ..why does a car have seat belts If air bags work ..why does a car need brakes ?

Because each layer just improves the package and the effectiveness .. you can wear a helmet too but at some point the protection and risk is a fair trade off.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:35 am
by mathjak107
murphy_p_t wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:33 am
mathjak107 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:19 pm Great , at least now in New York those who wanted to ride everyone else’s coattails back to a normal life , letting everyone else take the risks of vaccination will have to be inconvenienced with constant testing to do many things.

Love it ..those who don’t want to get vaccinated don’t have to ...but they will spend their time constantly have to retest so they can prove to the rest of the population they are safe .

I love it ....

Wait , I have to do my happy dance

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2 ... -new-york/
vindictive adjective

vin·​dic·​tive | \ vin-ˈdik-tiv \
Definition of vindictive
1a: disposed to seek revenge : VENGEFUL
b: intended for or involving revenge
2: intended to cause anguish or hurt : SPITEFUL
Wanting others who are unsafe to have to go through extra steps to prove they are safe is not vindictive.. they should not be able to ride the coattails of others who were made safe because they still are not

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:43 am
by murphy_p_t
When you're doing your happy dance, don't hurt yourself.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:07 am
by mathjak107
Thinking the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease is nonsense

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:27 am
by Xan
It would be nice if we could discuss viewpoints without calling the other side, that is, other actual people that we interact with on this forum, nasty names.

Pug, you're right about being very close to the end game here, but the "literally anyone who wants one" part has one big hole: children. For kids (and families) to get back to normal, we'll need community transmission rates to really plummet. It's looking very good for vaccines massively reducing transmissibility (here's a decent summary):
https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-brief ... ansmission
so the more people get vaccinated (or otherwise achieve immunity), the quicker we can get back to normal.

It seems kind of strange for people to argue against transmission by asymptomatic people and simultaneously say that there's no reduction in transmissibility by people who are prevented from getting sick. Viral load is massively lower in people who don't develop disease.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:44 am
by mathjak107
Well the only reason it may have shown that about kids is schools and day cares were closed ..

We have a three year old not in our family give it to the four year old and now all 4 have it in our family .

It may be far more easier to transmit then we think just because ,the day cares and schools do have a lot more precautions in place so it is not as common ..but the more things open up the more common it may be .

It may be no more difficult or uncommon than kids passing the flu to parents and others .

Just not enough kids exposed to know yet

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:49 am
by mathjak107
It is like when our knucklehead president said stop all the testing and we will have less cases ...ha ha

The kids were pretty well protected or isolated from getting it so it shows lower transmission rates ...but that may chance as more schools and facilities open

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:53 am
by murphy_p_t
mathjak107 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:07 am Thinking the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease is nonsense
Here is the evidence to support my claim that the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease. 40x for those over 65.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exper ... esearchers

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:04 am
by murphy_p_t
https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-brief ... ansmission

Regarding this article, some thoughts come immediately to mind.

1. This article is attempting to address what had widely been reported previously. Namely, that those injected are still going to asymptomatically transmit the Wuhan. That is a massive design flaw for the vaccine salesman.

2. Among the medical staff referenced in the article who were tested for Wuhan, even the unvaccinated rate of infection is approaching zero. and waiting 12 days for those who have been experimented upon, the rate is even closer to zero. Conclusion: with or without submitting oneself to the experiment, your infection rate is approaching zero.

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:06 am
by mathjak107
murphy_p_t wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:53 am
mathjak107 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:07 am Thinking the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease is nonsense
Here is the evidence to support my claim that the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease. 40x for those over 65.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exper ... esearchers
Do a fact check on that ...there is source after source saying this is false

Re: Reasons why I will not be getting injected for the Wuhan

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:09 am
by murphy_p_t
Do not order me what to do