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Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:40 pm Worked today and went to the gym.

-Had one guy insist on doing the elbow thing instead of shaking hands
- one of my coworkers bought 2 bottles of hand sanitizer for 30 dollars
- in the public bathroom every guy was washing their hands obsessively
- covid-19 notices of potential closure at the mall and rec centre
- every conversation I overheard in the food court was about the virus
- one of my coworkers is sick after travelling and is self-isolating

Holy shit this thing is taking over all of public consciousness.

Oh you bet.

My hospital sent out a notice last night that they are cancelling all elective procedures. Pugchief, if you wanted that knee replacement you'd better get it quick.

I'm also checking in with my mom daily, and guiding her to ordering groceries online from Fresh Direct. She's doing very well so far.

Ad - I hope you are doing ok?? A daily update would be appreciated! More than daily if you like!

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:33 pm

WiseOne wrote: Pugchief, if you wanted that knee replacement you'd better get it quick.

I don't need a knee replacement. Not sure where you got that idea, but thanks for the warning, anyway.

I think you may have mentioned that as an example (and not you, friends?) in regards to comparing Canada's health care system to ours.

Vinny

DeBlasio won’t close schools in New York City. That’s interesting.

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:24 pm DeBlasio won’t close schools in New York City. That’s interesting.

I think that I have disclosed that three towns in the county to the south of mine have closed their schools for three weeks (no reported cases). And, in the town next to mine (same county, also no reported cases) schools are closed for next week. The technical school in my town is closed for next week but I have not yet heard anything regarding the public schools in my town. However, this past week has had such rapid developments that I've not been able to stay on top of all. Plus, I've not yet looked at yesterday or today's newspapers.

What is school situation for everyone else here?

Spain declares state of emergency.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:32 pm What is school situation for everyone else here?

The schools here (Central Indiana) are out until at least April 13th. Two weeks of online classes, a week of no school, then a week of spring break. No sports, clubs, or other activities at all during that time.

My mother is a retired teacher in a rural area (Vermont) and the schools are staying open (but no extra activities) because there simply are not enough alternatives for daycare, etc. and most parents work.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:32 pm

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:24 pm DeBlasio won’t close schools in New York City. That’s interesting.

I think that I have disclosed that three towns in the county to the south of mine have closed their schools for three weeks (no reported cases). And, in the town next to mine (same county, also no reported cases) schools are closed for next week. The technical school in my town is closed for next week but I have not yet heard anything regarding the public schools in my town.

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What is school situation for everyone else here?

K-12 closed one week starting Monday, 3/16.
I'd be shocked if they didn't extend the closure.
Four (?) will be providing food (pickup only)
(Lunch/breakfast I think)
Community college doing all classes online starting Monday, 3/16.
Spring break the following week.
No idea what their longer term plans are
Campus "Open", but some services,like cafeteria, closed.
Others with reduced hiurs
Local University suspended in-person instructions indefinitely.
Finals will be online.
Campus is Open.

flyingpylon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:53 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:32 pm What is school situation for everyone else here?

The schools here (Central Indiana) are out until at least April 13th. Two weeks of online classes, a week of no school, then a week of spring break. No sports, clubs, or other activities at all during that time.

My mother is a retired teacher in a rural area (Vermont) and the schools are staying open (but no extra activities) because there simply are not enough alternatives for daycare, etc. and most parents work.

I live about 1/2 hour from the Vermont border. A lot of demographics in our county are similar to Vermont's.

Vinny

UK & Ireland are part of the travel ban now. That’s more like it.
@Vinny: the school where my wife teaches is finally closed, but only as of yesterday. (She took this semester off anyway).

dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:24 pm DeBlasio won’t close schools in New York City. That’s interesting.

He says he won't close the schools because it would instantly make it impossible for many people to work. NYC schools are considered to be a form of day care plus soup kitchen (many kids get all their meals at schools). The meal thing is a bit of overreach, but I can understand the argument that it would put a lot of people out of work. My brother is in that position: he is a single father of 2 kids (ages 5 and , and his kids' schools just closed. He has his own business (architecture) with a small handful of employees, and is wondering how he's going to be able to keep things going. He'll have to hire a nanny I guess - but then, his income is likely to go down as I bet not a lot of home renovations are on the radar right now.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:32 pm What is school situation for everyone else here?

Here in Southern California, both Los Angeles Unified and San Diego Unified school districts announced yesterday that they’ll be closed for the rest of the month. I think other school districts are rapidly following suit, too.

@RachelDonadio (via Andrew Ross Sorkin)

**Of the 300 #Covid19 cases in France IN CRITICAL CONDITION, more than 50% are under the age of 60.**

https://twitter.com/andrewrsorkin/statu ... 35906?s=20

I peeked at the history of pandemics today — bad idea.

Hmm. EDIT: some argue that it is not a reinfection, but simply that, according to a new study, the virus can remain on one’s respiratory tract for 37 days.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6623287/coro ... nfections/
—-
Original post:

Japan confirms first case of person re-infected with coronavirus
The reinfection has health officials worried the illness could stay dormant after signs of recovery.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... reinfected

alternate source: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... t-positive

I work part-time for a large athletic clothing retailer in Vancouver.

We are having severely reduced hours from our normal operating times of 7:30am to 2am. We are now down to 11am to 7pm. Additionally, all head office employees are now working from home if possible.

As a computer science student and programmer that part of my life was basically made for this mode of operation.

All my acting, music, and stand up gigs are being either postponed or outright cancelled.

We're being told that 30% to 70% of Canadians are likely to contract the virus before all is said and done.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

Mexico: Interesting!

Ans.: Planning to stay home for 40-50 days.

P.S. For Cortopassi:

Europe’s Plagues Came From China, Study Finds

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/01/health/01plague.html

(from 2010)
Note: last paragraph says

The likely origin of the plague in China has nothing to do with its people or crowded cities, Dr. Achtman said. The bacterium has no interest in people, whom it slaughters by accident. Its natural hosts are various species of rodent such as marmots and voles, which are found throughout China.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I'm not going out other than for absolute necessities until the outbreak is contained and the health care system is back to something resembling normal operation.

I don't expect that to happen until June, unless an extremely effective treatment not involving ventilators is developed immediately.

Both my wife and I are over 70, so the same may not apply to you.

But see my thread on the most important prep: don't take any chances on getting sick or injured!

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:16 am

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I'm not going out other than for absolute necessities until the outbreak is contained and the health care system is back to something resembling normal operation.

I don't expect that to happen until June, unless an extremely effective treatment not involving ventilators is developed immediately.

Both my wife and I are over 70, so the same may not apply to you.

But see my thread on the most important prep: don't take any chances on getting sick or injured!

You are both over 70. But how would you rate your overall health compared to the average over 70 person? To the average American?

But I can well understand taking a position of why take on any risks when there is not necessity to take on that risk.

Vinny

yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:23 am

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:16 am

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I'm not going out other than for absolute necessities until the outbreak is contained and the health care system is back to something resembling normal operation.

I don't expect that to happen until June, unless an extremely effective treatment not involving ventilators is developed immediately.

Both my wife and I are over 70, so the same may not apply to you.

But see my thread on the most important prep: don't take any chances on getting sick or injured!

You are both over 70. But how would you rate your overall health compared to the average over 70 person? To the average American?

But I can well understand taking a position of why take on any risks when there is not necessity to take on that risk.

Vinny

I take no medications. The last time I applied for life insurance (7 years ago), I was in the "preferred best" risk category.
My wife takes a few medications but she wouldn't die without them. She was in "preferred plus" 7 years ago.

We are within the normal weight range and rarely get sick.

So overall I would say we are probably in the top 1% of our age range and probably in the top 10% overall.

But we can stay home and don't want to add to the burdens that the health care system is about to experience.

Becoming homebodies is a good plan. Taking international vacations, not so much....MangoMan glad you're back, but I respectfully suggest a 14 day hiatus before you see patients (or visit elderly relatives).

There was a physician in NJ who came back from a vacation and saw clinic patients for a day before being diagnosed with COVID19. Fortunately, he wore a mask and gloves, but the patients were put into quarantine anyway. I imagine they were not pleased. Don't be that guy.

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

There has been 4 confirmed cases in the town of 100,000, that I live in.
So 4 people have been walking around exposing others before having been confirmed.
My wife and I are under 70, but also fortunately retired.
I will be a home body until I see what progresses over the next 2 weeks.

shekels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:01 am

MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:54 am I've been in Mexico all week. Just getting back. It's as if nothing had changed down there. Business as usual.

Will staying home for 3 days, or 14 for that matter, make any difference after going thru the airport? Is everyone just planning to stay home for the next 2 weeks, or only those over 70?

There has been 4 confirmed cases in the town of 100,000, that I live in.
So 4 people have been walking around exposing others before having been confirmed.
My wife and I are under 70, but also fortunately retired.
I will be a home body until I see what progresses over the next 2 weeks.

Update as of yesterday in Massachusetts. 138 cases. 104 from the Biogen conference. In all of western MA (rural) there are only the 9 in Berkshire county. None yet in my county or the surrounding ones.

Vinny

(Ans. for question in stock scream thread)
Russia has 59 cases that they admit to.
Who knows, really.

dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:18 pm (Ans. for question in stock scream thread)
Russia has 59 cases that they admit to.
Who knows, really.

That would be less than what has been generated by that one "Biogen" conference in Massachusetts!

Vinny