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Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:03 am
by Kriegsspiel
yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 am
The source of the article to be trusted?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media
"Accuracy and ideology PJ Media is an extreme far right[17] American news, opinion, and commentary website. Overall, PJ Media is to be Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies as well as numerous failed fact checks.
One recent false allegation in January 2020 was a fake story by anti-Muslim PJ Media Columnist Richard Spencer[18]to smear U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar by falsely claiming that she advised Iran to attack Trump-branded hotels in the world, thus committing treason[19]. This slandering story by PJ Media was also promoted on their Facebook Page[20][21]. Of course, this was a false story[22] by the PJ Media Contributor, who also runs the anti-Muslim conspiracy blog Jihad Watch. "
Vinny
I was just going to link to the filing from the lawyer, but I figured since PJ Media was where I learned about it (and the story is backed up by other news sources), I'd link to them.
By the way, Richard Spencer is the white nationalist dude.
The article on PJ Media is by Robert Spencer, who is a different person. What would that be, a false smear Inception?
EDIT Or a Russian Nesting
Dolls Hoax situation

Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:36 am
by Tyler
yankees60 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:39 am
The source of the article to be trusted?
The article accurately quotes Flynn's own attorney and provides a direct link to the court filing to back it up. So yes.
I'm more interested in what your doubt about the veracity of a well-known court case implies about the sources you do trust. If the truth surprises you, maybe it's time to branch out!
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Justice Department watchdog finds errors in over 25% of FBI applications to "monitor" Americans.
The report said investigators found facts in all 25 applications that were either not supported, not clearly corroborated or inconsistent with documentation in factual-support files, though it didn’t look at the broader case file for such information. It said the review had found an average of 20 issues per application, with as many as 65 issues in one, and fewer than five in another.
The findings follow a December report in which the watchdog found a series of errors in the FBI’s pursuit of a wiretap against Mr. Page, a former Trump foreign-policy adviser.
In four additional applications, the FBI couldn’t locate the files of factual support, the report said.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:06 pm
by Smith1776
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 pm
Justice Department watchdog finds errors in over 25% of FBI applications to "monitor" Americans.
The report said investigators found facts in all 25 applications that were either not supported, not clearly corroborated or inconsistent with documentation in factual-support files, though it didn’t look at the broader case file for such information. It said the review had found an average of 20 issues per application, with as many as 65 issues in one, and fewer than five in another.
The findings follow a December report in which the watchdog found a series of errors in the FBI’s pursuit of a wiretap against Mr. Page, a former Trump foreign-policy adviser.
In four additional applications, the FBI couldn’t locate the files of factual support, the report said.
It's stuff like this that makes me intellectually sympathetic to the libertarian ideal.
Government authority, arbitrary abuses of power, and the lack of any real checks and balances are the issues that plague our society today.
What really worries me is how the government is going to use the (legitimate) COVID-19 pandemic to permanently erode our freedoms.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/snowden-c ... veillance/
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:21 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Full agree. This is something to keep an eye on.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm
by Tortoise
Maybe after this pandemic, the only way a person will be allowed to buy or sell anything in public will be if a personal device or implanted chip (“mark of the Beast”) verifies that the person isn’t currently infected by the seasonal boogeyman virus.
That’ll get both the libertarians and the Christian fundamentalists excited!
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:41 pm
by dualstow
Tortoise wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm
Maybe after this pandemic, the only way a person will be allowed to buy or sell anything in public will be if a personal device or implanted chip (“mark of the Beast”) verifies that the person isn’t currently infected by the seasonal boogeyman virus.
That’ll get both the libertarians
and the Christian fundamentalists excited!
There was a weird conspiracy theory about Bill Gates wanting to implant such a chip. It was supposed to tell you whether or not someone had been tested. i thought it was a funny parody of Windows certification (proof of purchase), but there are people out there who took it seriously.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:05 pm
by Ad Orientem
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:38 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Anyone been following the developments with this crew?
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:16 pm
by dualstow
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:51 am
by Hal
Melbourne made it into the "Solari Report"
Social Distancing the Victorian way....
https://twitter.com/TheSolariReport/sta ... 3361348608
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
by Kriegsspiel
What was that all about?
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am
by Hal
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
What was that all about?
Either not a legitimate reason to be out of your house (eg Supermarket) or more than two people together.
Take your pick
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-958222
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:53 am
by Hal
And please Gerald Celente, do a parody on this
Still remember your last one from about ten years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3R_glJde8
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 10:16 am
by Kriegsspiel
MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 7:56 am
That was so funny and disturbing at the same time. It really makes you take a step back and ask WTF the government is ordering (this is not the cops' fault, they are doing their job) and why we are allowing it.
There's
a book that goes in-depth into that phenomenon. A universal aspect that one notices is that the process follows a crawl-walk-run escalation.
The Gov of IL is now threatening to pull the business license of anyone who violates the order. It's not your business, it is the state's (and the city's) and you operate it only at their pleasure.
We're definitely seeing governments probing to see how much they can get away with.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:53 am
by Tortoise
George Floyd.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:37 pm
by dualstow

old thread
A friend sent me this. I don't like John Oliver as much as I used to and disagree with him often. Also, this is only tangentially related, as it's local news coverage that's getting roasted. But, the police get singed a little.
https://youtu.be/kCOnGjvYKI0
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:25 pm
by dualstow

Old, old thread
I just saw videos and articles re: the Tyler Canaris (victim) — Michael McMaster (policeman) incident.
social media, youtube, heavy.com …
I generally support the police and they’ve always been good to me, but I am increasingly aware of incidents like these.
Re: When the cops are the criminals
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:05 am
by Hal
Seeing the thread has been resurrected, this incident last year left me speechless. How anyone can be this stupid amazes me
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/24/us/c ... index.html