Just How Stupid Are We?

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Re: Just How Stupid Are We?

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Pointedstick wrote: When a thread accumulates 15 pages of posts in one day, there's probably a problem. And I think we all know what that problem is: Kshartle. He's not taking the hints, which are becoming increasingly more direct. The rest of us are interested in having thought-provoking discussions on a variety of subjects and he's interested in single-mindedly discussing the same topic over and over again--a topic he's convinced there is one single moral right answer to, and that he's got the right answer, making him the most moral person.
I'll take a portion of the blame... Part of me refuses to allow the following:

1) Onlookers to read un-challenged inflationist predictions based on monetarist or Austrian errors in thinking (the ol' MR vs Austrian debate). 

2) To argue discussions on government, morality and property from the premise of me being "violent" or advocating violence, and Kshartle (or whoever I'm debating) having figured out the One Moral Truth. 


So I am the one that pushes a debate about rules about horses in Central Park into such a deep realm that allows these discussions to go on and on.

And I am a bit stubborn about clarifying the validity of certain premises and hashing them out, or applying historical perspective, especially if they have huge moral/functional implications for me, my investments, or society.

So I certainly think I have contributed to stretching these debates out 15 pages in a day.  I just haven't done it on the premise that 1) I'm the only one that understands the One Moral Truth, and 2) most of the rest of you are violent or advocate violence while I'm sitting on a moral pedestal.
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Re: Just How Stupid Are We?

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l82start wrote: " be civil and courteous"
the above applies to how we respond to aggressive or abrasive posts as well as the posts themselves,
That's true. However, despite previous warnings, his language has gone beyond "aggressive or abrasive". He has become verbally abusive towards those who don't view the world as he does.

And, to be honest, it's made the forum a rather unpleasant place to have the kinds of conversations we strive for.

I'm sorry, but when you reach the point of calling a moderator a "liar", and his opinions "stupid", there should be consequences for that. Clive was permanently banned for a similar offense, if you remember.
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Gumby wrote: That's true. However, despite previous warnings, his language has gone beyond "aggressive or abrasive". He has become verbally abusive towards those who don't view the world as he does.

And, to be honest, it's made the forum a rather unpleasant place to have the kinds of conversations we strive for.

I'm sorry, but when you reach the point of calling a moderator a "liar", and his opinions "stupid", there should be consequences for that. Clive was permanently banned for a similar offense, if you remember.
I tend to agree. My patience for Kshartle's rudeness is wearing extremely thin, especially as it devolves into outright insults.
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if a post is over the line, report it and let the moderators deal with it..

derailing a thread into discussions about other posters is just as likely to get it locked as any other discussion that is all heat and no light...
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This thread has already been thoroughly derailed and the tracks are nowhere in sight. Might as well lock it.
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PS,

I'm sure if we somehow linked this to MR/Austrianism we could get her back on track...

:D


Ok... too soon.
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moda0306 wrote: PS,

I'm sure if we somehow linked this to MR/Austrianism we could get her back on track...

:D


Ok... too soon.
That reminds me of something from Jon Stewart's Democracy, The Book:
Middle Eastern Joke:

- Knock knock
- Who's there?
- No, it is you that is wrong.
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Maybe we should start fresh with a new thread.

I'm going to lock this one here.
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