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Re: How you can lose virtually all of your rights without a meaningful hearing

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:18 am
by eufo
Maddy wrote:[...]and quite often only after the accused person has been involuntarily detained[...]
Somehow read this as ACCURSED person... I was like... daaaammmnnn!

Re: How you can lose virtually all of your rights without a meaningful hearing

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:06 am
by WiseOne
Would they really make like United Airlines and drag you away with physical force, possibly breaking down the door in the process? In all cases described, the elderly folks in question went voluntarily in the end.

It occurred to me that another way to minimize the risk of this happening is not to live in obvious retiree "hot spots" that are away from major metro areas, Like Las Vegas, Palm Springs, Sarasota. I'm sure they attract predators like April Parks in the article about the Las Vegas cases, and have creaky small-town justice systems that are too easy for one corrupt person to manipulate.

This may be a good reason to stay put in NYC where there are lots of people in their 90s and even 100s living independently. I've never heard of anyone being forced out of their home, but I do know of several instances where building staff and neighbors have helped keep an eye on residents with questionable mental status. A cooperative building is essentially a small village where everyone knows everyone else.
Libertarian666's solution of living in the rural equivalent of this is another good solution. I think it's the in between situation that is ripe for this kind of problem.

Re: How you can lose virtually all of your rights without a meaningful hearing

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:07 pm
by Libertarian666
WiseOne wrote:Would they really make like United Airlines and drag you away with physical force, possibly breaking down the door in the process? In all cases described, the elderly folks in question went voluntarily in the end.
If they did that, I would be able to buy my own island after the lawsuit.
WiseOne wrote: It occurred to me that another way to minimize the risk of this happening is not to live in obvious retiree "hot spots" that are away from major metro areas, Like Las Vegas, Palm Springs, Sarasota. I'm sure they attract predators like April Parks in the article about the Las Vegas cases, and have creaky small-town justice systems that are too easy for one corrupt person to manipulate.

This may be a good reason to stay put in NYC where there are lots of people in their 90s and even 100s living independently. I've never heard of anyone being forced out of their home, but I do know of several instances where building staff and neighbors have helped keep an eye on residents with questionable mental status. A cooperative building is essentially a small village where everyone knows everyone else.

Libertarian666's solution of living in the rural equivalent of this is another good solution. I think it's the in between situation that is ripe for this kind of problem.
Probably so.