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Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:21 pm
by MachineGhost
They don't say what "election outcome" they're tracking, i.e. popoular or electoral.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:37 pm
by Reub
MachineGhost wrote:
Reub wrote:The most accurate poll in the last 3 elections, the IBD/TIPP poll, has Trump in the lead 41%-40%. It appears as if Trump is gaining support in their poll too.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-t ... tion-poll/
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Where is this chart from, MG?

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:05 pm
by MachineGhost
Same place you posted.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:06 pm
by Reub

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:32 am
by Reub
Latest IBD Poll has Trump +2 in a poll that has more Dems than voted for Obama in 2008. Trump may be well ahead. This poll has 8% more Democrats voting than Rep's so it's looking very good for Trump. Oh, also ahead by 18% among independent voters.

IBD actually reweighted this poll 10 points in Hillary's favor just to keep it close!

http://www.investors.com/politics/ibd-t ... tion-poll/

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:10 pm
by MachineGhost
Don't get too excited. Trump only has .5 lead against Clinton head on and the margin of error is +/- 3.6. And that's with 11.3 unsure! Mindboggling. How can people be so fucking ignorant that they still can't make a decision? Ught. ::)

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:24 pm
by Reub
MachineGhost wrote:Don't get too excited. Trump only has .5 lead against Clinton head on and the margin of error is +/- 3.6. And that's with 11.3 unsure! Mindboggling. How can people be so fucking ignorant that they still can't make a decision? Ught. ::)
My guess is those who are unsure are really unsure about Trump, not Hillry who they've known for 35 years. They are sure that they don't like the evil witch.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:39 am
by Reub
New Wikileaks evidence on the left's attempt to oversample polling:

"----- Original Message ----- From: tmatzzie@gmail.com <tmatzzie@gmail.com> To: georgerakis@gmail.com <georgerakis@gmail.com>; Andy Meyer Sent: Thu Jan 10 21:21:07 2008 Subject: Meet and polling design Hey, when can we meet? I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling. -Tom"

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:38 pm
by Reub
There are four major polls now have that Trump winning: IBD, PPD, Rasmussen and LATimes. The media ignores them all despite at least 3 being among most accurate. Instead all I hear about is an ABC poll.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:31 pm
by MachineGhost
Simonjester wrote: Vegas and Europe's bet-makers are showing trump inching ahead for the first time as of just recently..
Given that PredictWise is still at 91% (which uses both polls and betting markets), there has to be a serious oversampling bias of Democrats in the polls going on for Trump to pull off a win. The undecideds/third parties are flunctuating back and forth vs Slick Hilly and not Trump who seems to have rock solid support but is not growing. At least based on these polls:

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I say if you use only the IBD/TIPP poll, the betting markets and the regression equation, Trump is going to win. But it might happen via the House. That may be a bad thing as we really don't want all those liberal loonie lunatics getting even more enraged!

There seems to be a lot more than just Trump at stake here as a referendum... its the entire Crony-Elite-Government-Media-Establishment and whether you can trust it at all anymore. Even Elizabeth Warren is calling for the head of the head of the SEC to be chopped off.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:14 am
by Reub
"Just yesterday we wrote about the very curious ABC / Wapo poll which seemed to show Hillary's blow-out 12-point lead from last Sunday get cut in half in a matter of just two days. But the ABC/Wapo enigma continues to grow today as their latest poll shows the presidential race has now tightened to just 2 points, which is within the margin of error. Ironically, these new results do not reflect the latest FBI bombshell as polling was concluded on October 27th and it still includes an 8-point sampling advantage for democrats.

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Oct. 24-27, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,148 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 37-29-29 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-2 ... s-2-points

I'm guessing that the last minute polls might show a blowout lead for Trump. The pollsters can only defend her for so long.

Re: NBC/FOX Appear To Commit Blatant Polling Fraud

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:32 pm
by MachineGhost
Including Spanish is gonna oversample it to Democrats unless they're calling Cubans in Florida.