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Many of those it could at least potentially be reasonable to believe.  But the moon landing faked?  Impossible.  Too many people involved.  Also we all saw it happen, along with ten years of achievements leading up to it.  Kshartle, where do you think the famous photograph "Earthrise" came from, or that iconic shot of the entire Earth by itself from Apollo 8?  Or do you think we actually flew to the moon many times, but then faked the landing part?  How do you account for being able to see the flag, rover, landers, etc, with telescopes?

I can understand somebody disbelieving who was so old when the landing happened that they just couldn't fathom it.  My great-grandmother was like that, I think; but she was born in the 1890s.

Simonjester wrote: Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by a lookalike YES and 1960s rock and roll and hippies were an invention/plot by the military industrial complex to discredit the anti war moment (who were upstanding respectable looking Americans who protested wearing collared shirts and ties before the hippies made protesting a dirty, drug fueled, orgy..

I feel like there's an interesting thread in there.

Simonjester wrote: OK http://gyroscopicinvesting.com/forum/other-discussions/the-1960s-was-a-conspiracy/

Kshartle wrote: Really guys, flouride? No one cares about Paul (Faul) McCartney aka Billy Shears of Sgt. Pepper fame?

No, but -- and I hesitate to even call it this based on the history -- the "hypothesis" is that bones will take up the flouride and incorporate it into the teeth.  Flouride hardens teeth against dental decay.  Brown teeth is evidence of moderate to severe fluorosis, but flourosis is not limited to the teeth, its skeletol and also damages the brain via oxidization, especially the pineal gland which accumulates it liek a Pac Man.  The conspiracy angle comes from the Nazi's allegedly using it to pacify the German population.  Surprisingly, I've never seen this mentioned or investigated in any documentaries I've seen so far.

moda0306 wrote: The whole idea that government is just a giant ass-hole magnet is way over-exaggerated by conservatives, IMO.

Sadly, I have to agree.  My experience in interacting with government bureaucrats does not confirm the conservative fear-mongering.  I believe its truly only a small minority at the top of government organizations that are the proverbial "evil doers".  The rest are just the rank and file doing their jobs not worrying and obsessing about political ambition and power.  I believe this is why we retain special vehemance against politicians and top-level (appointed) bureaucrats.  They set the example for everyone else to follow.

Mountaineer wrote: Saddam Hussein was involved in the 2001 terror attacks YES (if indirect involvement counts)

Hussein's been long been cleared of any involvement 'cuz it was just all fantasies stovepiped by his excommunicated rival Chiernoffk (sp?) to get Bush to invade Iraq.  So what indirect involvement did Hussein allegedly have?

Xan wrote: Many of those it could at least potentially be reasonable to believe.  But the moon landing faked?  Impossible.  Too many people involved.  Also we all saw it happen, along with ten years of achievements leading up to it.  Kshartle, where do you think the famous photograph "Earthrise" came from, or that iconic shot of the entire Earth by itself from Apollo 8?  Or do you think we actually flew to the moon many times, but then faked the landing part?  How do you account for being able to see the flag, rover, landers, etc, with telescopes?

An episode of Mythbusters pretty much demolishes the idea the moon landing was faked: http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

MachineGhost wrote: Sadly, I have to agree.  My experience in interacting with government bureaucrats does not confirm the conservative fear-mongering.  I believe its truly only a small minority at the top of government organizations that are the proverbial "evil doers".  The rest are just the rank and file doing their jobs not worrying and obsessing about political ambition and power.  I believe this is why we retain special vehemance against politicians and top-level (appointed) bureaucrats.  They set the example for everyone else to follow.

I would say that if there are any personality traits I think you can find overrepresented among the rank and file, they're laziness and inflexibility. This is because the institutional structures of most government workplaces neither reward success nor punish failure, and many even resist measuring results to avoid having to deal with the issue entirely. As a result, success and failure come to be measured by faithful observance of the rules rather than actual output, all of which tends to attract people who are either lazy clock punchers or rigid inside-the-box thinkers.

MachineGhost wrote:

Xan wrote: Many of those it could at least potentially be reasonable to believe.  But the moon landing faked?  Impossible.  Too many people involved.  Also we all saw it happen, along with ten years of achievements leading up to it.  Kshartle, where do you think the famous photograph "Earthrise" came from, or that iconic shot of the entire Earth by itself from Apollo 8?  Or do you think we actually flew to the moon many times, but then faked the landing part?  How do you account for being able to see the flag, rover, landers, etc, with telescopes?

An episode of Mythbusters pretty much demolishes the idea the moon landing was faked: http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

Mitchell and Webb did a pretty good de-bunking too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

Fluoride is a local decision....my county had it. Then it was taken out of water supply for a couple years when tea party tin foil hats won local elections. Then recently it was introduced again. I've never had a cavity in my life and maybe it's due to fluoride but I would just as soon not have it added to water. Anyways.....drinking things like tea gives you much more fluoride than the minute amount in the water supply.

doodle wrote: Fluoride is a local decision....my county had it. Then it was taken out of water supply for a couple years when tea party tin foil hats won local elections. Then recently it was introduced again. I've never had a cavity in my life and maybe it's due to fluoride but I would just as soon not have it added to water. Anyways.....drinking things like tea gives you much more fluoride than the minute amount in the water supply.

Appears there may be a downside to fluoride in tea.

Camellia sinensis, the tea plant, produces what can be called "true teas" such as green, black, and oolong (#Parkinson). Accumulation of Fluoride in the tea plant comes from its natural ability to absorb Fluoride from surrounding soil. It is estimated that up to 98% of the Fluoride content in the tea plant is deposited in its leaves, particularly the old ones, following the release of Fluoride from aluminum Fluoride complexes initially formed at the roots (#Lu, et al., 2004). Fluoride has been suggested as an efficient, cost-effective indicator of maturity as well as a negative indicator of quality. Reason for the latter is due to the increase of Fluoride content paralleling a decline in beneficial polyphenols as the tea plant ages (#Lu, et al., 2004). The most notable catechin polyphenol found in Camellia sinensis is epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a strong anti-oxidant that reduces LDL and acts as an anti-Cancer agent (#Parkinson).

http://toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/ ... ent+in+Tea

... Mountaineer

Obviously Obama is not the Antichrist, as the Antichrist will be extremely popular all around the world.
(Please excuse any error here, as I'm not actually a Biblical scholar).