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Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:50 pm
by Dieter
Pointedstick wrote: Probably the best one I've heard was, "I'm very open-minded, but if you ask me, those intolerant Republicans should all be loaded onto a spaceship and shot into the sun."
Intolerant of the intolerant when they act on their intolerance....

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:54 pm
by AgAuMoney
RuralEngineer wrote: That's messed up Jan. The forums wouldn't be the same without our liberal brethren.
Besides, there's little more funny than a serious communist.

(Guess I'll go see if Fidel has written/said anything new lately, I could use a little comedic relief...)

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:58 pm
by Pointedstick
Dieter wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: Probably the best one I've heard was, "I'm very open-minded, but if you ask me, those intolerant Republicans should all be loaded onto a spaceship and shot into the sun."
Intolerant of the intolerant when they act on their intolerance....
The point is, intolerance of intolerance is a tautology. It's a great illustration of MT's point how people who consider themselves open-minded and tolerant can have huge blind spots. You don't have to be intolerant to be disapproving, or to do what you have to do.

"When you must kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
- Winston Churchill

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:15 am
by k9
smurff wrote: I always thought you were the K9 who used to hang with Doctor Who.
No, I'm not. I'm a Mark IV.

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:01 am
by Jan Van
My favorite Nigel Powers quote:

Nigel Powers

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:19 pm
by Dieter
Pointedstick wrote:
Dieter wrote:
Pointedstick wrote: Probably the best one I've heard was, "I'm very open-minded, but if you ask me, those intolerant Republicans should all be loaded onto a spaceship and shot into the sun."
Intolerant of the intolerant when they act on their intolerance....
The point is, intolerance of intolerance is a tautology. It's a great illustration of MT's point how people who consider themselves open-minded and tolerant can have huge blind spots. You don't have to be intolerant to be disapproving, or to do what you have to do.

"When you must kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."
- Winston Churchill
That was the point - difference between my response to someones beliefs vs them making me adhere to beliefs.

Someone believe the earth is flat - one response (may discuss, may just shake my head and move on)
They want to pass a law making globes illegal - no

And maybe intolerant is too strong, but the first definition "1 : unable or unwilling to endure", which iimplies more active disagreement than "disapprove".

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:03 pm
by GT
OP – What a great post. I did not even realize that I looking at the avatar and running it through my own past experiances and what the picture meant to me.

What I think I "see" in the Avatar:

PS – Nelson Mandela pops into my head

Medium-Tex – first glance Charlie Sheen from Platoon; at the end of the movie – then a young Bruce Campbell from Army of Darkness

Wild About Harry – thought that was his real picture until I found out it was Harry Browne from the 1970’s.

TennPaGA – Rick Springfield; song Jessie’s Girl pops into my head

Craigr – shrunken head maybe; movie Beetlejuice pops into my head

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:29 pm
by Mountaineer
Liberal assumption:  Conservatives are idiots!

Conservative assumption:  Liberals are idiots!

Moderate assumption:  Conservatives are half idiots, liberals are half idiots!

Libertarian assumption:  Who cares, just leave me alone.

My assumption:  We are all simultaneous saints and sinners!

Anyone want to make an assumption about me?  ;D

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:57 pm
by smurff
k9 wrote:
smurff wrote: I always thought you were the K9 who used to hang with Doctor Who.
No, I'm not. I'm a Mark IV.
I stand corrected.  But you look so much like a Mark III. ;D

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:26 pm
by MediumTex
I'm happiest when I approach those with different ideas like an anthropologist.

I really want to understand the rationale for other people's beliefs.  I want to understand the mental processes that led them to assemble and interpret reality in the ways that they do.

I don't want to distract them with my own beliefs unless they ask me to explain them and I think that they really want to hear what I have to say.

I don't want to make people feel uncomfortable while talking with me.  It's not that I fear challenging them, it's just that I know once most people feel threatened their thought processes turn more reptilian and this state of mind seems to generate very little in the way of new insights.

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:28 pm
by Xan
Speaking of assumptions, PointedStick, I've always assumed that your name comes from the old Monty Python sketch about the self-defense class.  Does it?

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:29 pm
by Pointedstick
Guilty as charged.  :)

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:38 pm
by Xan

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:51 pm
by MediumTex
I was watching that clip and saw the following 3:15 clip from George Carlin and it blew me away.  So much packed into three minutes.  It's a summary of much of what we talk about here.

http://youtu.be/-PkWf9M3rUw

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:10 am
by Gosso
MediumTex wrote:
I was watching that clip and saw the following 3:15 clip from George Carlin and it blew me away.  So much packed into three minutes.  It's a summary of much of what we talk about here.

http://youtu.be/-PkWf9M3rUw
Speaking of "assumption you didn't know you've made", as a child I had always assumed Mr. Conductor from Thomas the Tank Engine was a sweet old man:

Image

Then once I grew up a bit and watched this, well, my mind exploded, "Seven Dirty Words" (9:47 - warning: contains dirty words):

http://youtu.be/vbZhpf3sQxQ

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:27 pm
by dualstow
smurff wrote: I always thought you were the K9 who used to hang with Doctor Who.
I don't know if you use a Mac, smurff, but I'm lovin' these icons.
http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/s ... -Icons.htm
It's especially nice to have a tardis icon for Time Machine-dedicated volumes.

Re: Assumptions you didn't know you've made

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:52 pm
by smurff
dualstow wrote:
smurff wrote: I always thought you were the K9 who used to hang with Doctor Who.
I don't know if you use a Mac, smurff, but I'm lovin' these icons.
http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/s ... -Icons.htm
It's especially nice to have a tardis icon for Time Machine-dedicated volumes.
Thanks for the  link, dualstow.  I'm on a Mac, so this is a great site.  I liked the Tardis, but the Daleks are my favorite evil robots--which reminds me of that other topic we're doing on this forum about a world full of robots.