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Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:49 pm
by MachineGhost
dragoncar wrote:
Ok, there's definitely a Wheaton eco scale thing going on when I'm talking with someone who doesn't believe there should be any government. It's like talking to someone who doesn't believe they should have a face. There's not much that can be accomplished in discussion.
Don't be so melodramatic. Inflicting coercion on more people, rather than less, in the name of "fairness" is never a truly fair outcome to "society". History is replete with many examples.
Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:17 pm
by moda0306
MG,
As a quasi-Austriolibertarian, you may want to be careful accusing others of melodrama. Only the far victimology left can make living in such a modern, free, prosperous country sound so g-d tyrannical and brutal.
Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:47 pm
by dragoncar
MachineGhost wrote:
Now, who's engaging in Newspeak by using "We are a society"?
As George Carlin once said: Have you ever noticed that
their words are Newspeak and
your Newspeak is words?
Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:49 pm
by Pointedstick
dragoncar wrote:
MachineGhost wrote:
Now, who's engaging in Newspeak by using "We are a society"?
As George Carlin once said: Have you ever noticed that
their words are Newspeak and
your Newspeak is words.
I'm with you on this one. We
all redefine words to mean what we want them to mean, and become shocked,
shocked! to find other people who think they mean something else!
Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:54 pm
by Pointedstick
MangoMan wrote:
Pointedstick wrote:
2. The reason why sales taxes exist is to make merchants compensate the state government for the use of its services that are not otherwise paid for with user fees (such as electricity and roads). If, for example, a merchant in Ohio doesn't use the services in the state of Florida, why should a Floridian making the purchase be compelled to pay Florida sale staxes? Perhaps from this perspective it would be more fair for the Florida purchaser to in fact pay sales taxes to Ohio, but that creates the unfairness of taxation without representation.
How is that any different than the taxes you pay on purchases while visiting another state on vacation?
It isn't. Let's repeal that, too. As I've said before, I think the fairest thing of all is no taxes on anyone.
Re: Marketplace Fairness Act of 2013
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:29 pm
by notsheigetz
MangoMan wrote:
I believe you can have any VAT refunded to you when leaving Canada [maybe Europe?] by filling out a form. Perhaps the states would like to try this?
I could be wrong but I think they quit doing that.