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Except if it is true that there have been quotas for how many to arrest and deport each day ... then it's not been as promised ... the criminals being the first to go. Instead, it's been whoever it's been easiest to get at. It'd be completely no surprise if the quotas are true.
also:Employees were told they would face consequences for poor performance, the people said. Former ICE officials said that the approach, which is rare for the agency, would likely eventually lead officers to pursue more immigrants with no criminal backgrounds, as they are easier to find and arrest.
and:For now, according to people familiar with ICE’s operations, the agency is still conducting arrests by pursuing immigrants on what are called “target lists” of criminals developed by the agency, many of which were made before Trump took office.
src of all: https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/tru ... t-546d9954ICE arrested approximately 310 people a day during former President Joe Biden’s last year in office.
Or the predecessors.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:32 pm Watching Trump's spokeswoman.
She just clarified that every illegal immigrant is an illegal criminal since they broke the law. Somewhat of a step back from the focus being first on the heinous criminals. The difference between campaign promises and actual governing.
She IS a True Believer. Good choice for him. She fiercely defends. Of course, whether she defends with truth is not an expectation if you are in the Trump administration.
Not even in the same universe as Trump's. In the pantheon of liars and deceivers he is sui generis.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:46 pmOr the predecessors.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:32 pm Watching Trump's spokeswoman.
She just clarified that every illegal immigrant is an illegal criminal since they broke the law. Somewhat of a step back from the focus being first on the heinous criminals. The difference between campaign promises and actual governing.
She IS a True Believer. Good choice for him. She fiercely defends. Of course, whether she defends with truth is not an expectation if you are in the Trump administration.
??!!!!!I think I have mentioned before about B’s wife’s car accident and subsequent cover up and non-facts told to me by a top hospital manager and state police officer. Corrupt to the toenails. T is a lightweight compared to B in things that are corrupt. T is mainly a blow hard with bad hair and good ideas for the people. Of course you are free to see it your way.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:58 pmNot even in the same universe as Trump's. In the pantheon of liars and deceivers he is sui generis.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:46 pmOr the predecessors.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:32 pm Watching Trump's spokeswoman.
She just clarified that every illegal immigrant is an illegal criminal since they broke the law. Somewhat of a step back from the focus being first on the heinous criminals. The difference between campaign promises and actual governing.
She IS a True Believer. Good choice for him. She fiercely defends. Of course, whether she defends with truth is not an expectation if you are in the Trump administration.
. I am just here in the land of B.I missed that! I'll look for itI think I have mentioned before about B’s wife’s car accident and subsequent cover up and non-facts told to me by a top hospital manager and state police officer.
Agree 100% -- should go after those who hire them.ochotona wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:47 amLucky you. My wife's oncologist can no longer communicate with her colleagues at NIH. Her life depends on surfing the waves of the latest thing in blood cancer research.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:13 am On the bright side, President Trump has done nothing yet that personally adversely affects me, my neighborhood, my family or 99.99% of the United States citizens.
Everyone thinks they're not going to be affected, until suddenly they are. She didn't plan to have cancer. No one plans that. Yet
here. we. are.
There are no "other people". I know people who personally knew US Presidents - on both sides of the aisle. We're all separated by a few degrees. If you start arbitrarily running roughshod over large groups of people, eventually those standing on the sidelines are going to lose a toe or an eye.
I'm not advocating anarchy. I believe in laws. But I believe they should be administered fairly and humanely.
Back to the original topic... illegal immigration... sweeping up migrants is a lot like arresting sex workers. What about the Johns? Where are the CEOs of meatpacking companies who are employing these people? I don't see them on the news... oh, I get it... 1099 contractors (wink, wink).
I guarantee you, if the money evaporates, workers will lose interest and go home. But right now it's just putting on a Hunger Games cruelty show to throw enough red meat to the audience to keep their blood lust satisfied, whilst not really going after the root cause... which is always money flows.
I do not think you have ever mentioned that here.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:51 pmI think I have mentioned before about B’s wife’s car accident and subsequent cover up and non-facts told to me by a top hospital manager and state police officer. Corrupt to the toenails. T is a lightweight compared to B in things that are corrupt. T is mainly a blow hard with bad hair and good ideas for the people. Of course you are free to see it your way.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:58 pmNot even in the same universe as Trump's. In the pantheon of liars and deceivers he is sui generis.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:46 pmOr the predecessors.yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:32 pm Watching Trump's spokeswoman.
She just clarified that every illegal immigrant is an illegal criminal since they broke the law. Somewhat of a step back from the focus being first on the heinous criminals. The difference between campaign promises and actual governing.
She IS a True Believer. Good choice for him. She fiercely defends. Of course, whether she defends with truth is not an expectation if you are in the Trump administration.
On the Sunday new show -- This Week -- Chris Christie stated that Trump and Biden are the most selfish of presidents in his lifetime.
Very interesting!
I don’t know what you meanboglerdude wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 am > “nazi” loses all meaning
Change your mind about the convoy?
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You want interesting? Get this - Jefferson argued to Madison that all laws, including the Constitution, should expire after 19 years. You can read his letter to Madison from September 6, 1789 from the national archives https://founders.archives.gov/documents ... 12-02-0248
Where this gets interesting is those members of SCOTUS and members of Congress (mostly among the far right Republicans) that consider themselves "originalists" and treat the Constitution like a sacred near-biblical document that should be interpreted very literally and with what the framers specifically had in mind.Yes, in his letter to James Madison on September 6, 1789, Thomas Jefferson suggested that all laws, including constitutions, should expire after approximately 19 years—which he estimated as the length of a generational cycle. He believed that no generation had the right to impose its laws or debts on the next, arguing that “the earth belongs to the living” and that each generation should have the freedom to establish its own legal and political structures.
We are not sure whether Jefferson was necessarily advocating for an automatic expiration of the Constitution. Instead, he was making a philosophical argument that each generation should have the opportunity to reconsider and, if necessary, revise or replace the Constitution to reflect contemporary needs. He saw this as a way to prevent one generation from permanently binding future ones to outdated laws and institutions. A case can also be made that Jefferson was arguing that the burden and responsibility lies with successive generations to create their own constitutions and laws.
Madison, in response, expressed concerns that such frequent changes could lead to instability and undermine the continuity of government. In practice, the U.S. Constitution was designed to be amended rather than regularly replaced, reflecting Madison’s more cautious approach to governance.
glennds wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:05 pmWhere this gets interesting is those members of SCOTUS and members of Congress (mostly among the far right Republicans) that consider themselves "originalists" and treat the Constitution like a sacred near-biblical document that should be interpreted very literally and with what the framers specifically had in mind.
I'm not commenting on whether the originalists are right or wrong, but I'm making a point about just how different the originalist position is philosophically from Jefferson's position. And he WAS a framer.
The rival of the originalist interpretation of the Constitution is the competing concept known as Living Constitution a/k/a judicial pragmatism.Xan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:01 pmglennds wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:05 pmWhere this gets interesting is those members of SCOTUS and members of Congress (mostly among the far right Republicans) that consider themselves "originalists" and treat the Constitution like a sacred near-biblical document that should be interpreted very literally and with what the framers specifically had in mind.
I'm not commenting on whether the originalists are right or wrong, but I'm making a point about just how different the originalist position is philosophically from Jefferson's position. And he WAS a framer.
I don't think that is a conflict with the originalist position. I would imagine that a lot of folks who don't like originalism would think differently about it if all laws expired after 19 years.
Having a law mean what it says is a different question from whether the laws should expire.
