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yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:41 am If no one fit your criteria in the last 75 years then, perhaps, your criteria is too idealistic, almost bordering as being on a mythological level?

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:41 am
If no one fit your criteria in the last 75 years then, perhaps, your criteria is too idealistic, almost bordering as being on a mythological level?

Idealistic? No clue what you're getting at. I don't idealize the idea of someone being "right-wing". I'm just saying there's no one in the mainstream that comes close based on what I consider "right-wing". The farthest "right-wing" Republican politicians today would probably be far left of Democrats in the 60's or 70's or later. Remember Bill Clinton said "Illegal Aliens" in his State of the Union in the 90's. Do most Republicans even say that anymore even lol?

What's your definition of "right-wing" V? What politicians or prominent media personalities fit your definition?

Tucker Carlson is almost certainly considered "right-wing". He recently came out in favor of gay marriage. Does even support anything "right-wing"? I think he supports not allowing millions of South Americans to illegally cross the border. Is that right-wing now ahahahahahahah?

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:11 am

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:41 am If no one fit your criteria in the last 75 years then, perhaps, your criteria is too idealistic, almost bordering as being on a mythological level?

Idealistic? No clue what you're getting at. I don't idealize the idea of someone being "right-wing". I'm just saying there's no one in the mainstream that comes close based on what I consider "right-wing". The farthest "right-wing" Republican politicians today would probably be far left of Democrats in the 60's or 70's or later. Remember Bill Clinton said "Illegal Aliens" in his State of the Union in the 90's. Do most Republicans even say that anymore even lol?

What's your definition of "right-wing" V? What politicians or prominent media personalities fit your definition?

Tucker Carlson is almost certainly considered "right-wing". He recently came out in favor of gay marriage. Does even support anything "right-wing"? I think he supports not allowing millions of South Americans to illegally cross the border. Is that right-wing now ahahahahahahah?

Idealistic generally means having a standard that is usually not met in the practical, real world.

Therefore by your statements it seems like you have quite the idealistic view of what constitutes "right-wing".

My definition is fluid. "Right-wind" is generally represented by whatever the current Republican party stands for.

dualstow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:29 am Silent, would it kill you to say 'trans'? The whole gender dysphoria is controversial, and I'm possibly on the same side of it as you are, or at least I share your concerns.
But, it's kind of like using the n-word for black people to repeat "tranny" over and over again.

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:20 pm I can play along with the word game. I promise you the word will change again though, and probably soon. At some point calling a person "trans" will be the n-word equivalent. Then it will be a new word, you cis-gendered, hetro-normative bigot (kidding).

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:11 am

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:11 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:41 am
If no one fit your criteria in the last 75 years then, perhaps, your criteria is too idealistic, almost bordering as being on a mythological level?

Idealistic? No clue what you're getting at. I don't idealize the idea of someone being "right-wing". I'm just saying there's no one in the mainstream that comes close based on what I consider "right-wing". The farthest "right-wing" Republican politicians today would probably be far left of Democrats in the 60's or 70's or later. Remember Bill Clinton said "Illegal Aliens" in his State of the Union in the 90's. Do most Republicans even say that anymore even lol?

What's your definition of "right-wing" V? What politicians or prominent media personalities fit your definition?

Tucker Carlson is almost certainly considered "right-wing". He recently came out in favor of gay marriage. Does even support anything "right-wing"? I think he supports not allowing millions of South Americans to illegally cross the border. Is that right-wing now ahahahahahahah?

Idealistic generally means having a standard that is usually not met in the practical, real world.

Therefore by your statements it seems like you have quite the idealistic view of what constitutes "right-wing".

My definition is fluid. "Right-wind" is generally represented by whatever the current Republican party stands for.

Your definition is fluid?

That explains a lot. Feel free to have the last word. Since you have no real definition of "right-wing", discussing anything related to it with you is a total waste of time. You'll just change how you define it.

When the Republicans support gay adoption and full child tranny conversions, I suppose you will then consider that right-wing. It's like talking to a pile of sand. At any moment a gust of wind will blow and your "position" will completely change.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:02 pmShow me that verse in the Bible wherein God designated someone to receive the sacred list of all the attributes that represent the political "right-wing".

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:02 pm

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:11 am My definition is fluid. "Right-wind" is generally represented by whatever the current Republican party stands for.

Your definition is fluid?

That explains a lot. Feel free to have the last word. Since you have no real definition of "right-wing", discussing anything related to it with you is a total waste of time. You'll just change how you define it.

When the Republicans support gay adoption and full child tranny conversions, I suppose you will then consider that right-wing. It's like talking to a pile of sand. At any moment a gust of wind will blow and your "position" will completely change.

Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. My definition is whatever positions the Republican party is currently holding.

So it's not my position that is fundamentally changing. It follows whatever the Republicans change to.

On what basis does your list of what represents "right'-wing" have any validity?

Show me that verse in the Bible wherein God designated someone to receive the sacred list of all the attributes that represent the political "right-wing". I don't think you are going to find any so it is just your opinion and judgement as to what constitutes the "right-wing". At least with my position we know at any point in time what "right-wing" represents.

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:02 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:02 pm

SilentMajority wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:28 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:11 am
My definition is fluid. "Right-wind" is generally represented by whatever the current Republican party stands for.

Your definition is fluid?

That explains a lot. Feel free to have the last word. Since you have no real definition of "right-wing", discussing anything related to it with you is a total waste of time. You'll just change how you define it.

When the Republicans support gay adoption and full child tranny conversions, I suppose you will then consider that right-wing. It's like talking to a pile of sand. At any moment a gust of wind will blow and your "position" will completely change.

Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. My definition is whatever positions the Republican party is currently holding.

So it's not my position that is fundamentally changing. It follows whatever the Republicans change to.

On what basis does your list of what represents "right'-wing" have any validity?

Show me that verse in the Bible wherein God designated someone to receive the sacred list of all the attributes that represent the political "right-wing". I don't think you are going to find any so it is just your opinion and judgement as to what constitutes the "right-wing". At least with my position we know at any point in time what "right-wing" represents.

You win yankees60, I will respond.

Yes, we will know at any given time what "right-wing" represents to you, provided you explain ahead of time that it just represents whatever the consensus Republican position is at the moment. Very clear. When the Republicans support gay marriage and adoption, wars, welfare, abortion, gender neutral pronouns, affirmative action programs, mass immigration into the country, open satanic rituals on the congressional floor, that will all be "right-wing" to you.

Is it obvious that when you strip any possible meaning of a term away......by definition it becomes meaningless? If "right-wing news" and "right-wing politician' is synonymous with "Republican news, and Republican politician", there is no such thing as right-wing anymore, it's just Republican, regardless of any values, virtues, goals, etc. Hopefully this is obvious to most everyone.

By the way the Republicans were the anti-slavery party and the democrats were the pro-slavery party. Was anti-slavery "right-wing" back then? If not, then I guess you're saying they were left-wing and now they're right-wing. Of course they could switch again and then you'd really be in a pickle. How will you figure out what's right-wing if the republicans move to the left of the Dems? I guess the Dems will be right-wing then, who knows. Kinda tough to discuss something when the basic premise of what it is has no definition to one of the people.