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Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 3:18 am
by Grinch

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The portfolio has reached the €40,000 mark. The savings plans have been suspended since November. From now on, buying and selling will only occur when the ranges are met.
It feels like gold is currently forming a flagpole.
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 5:08 pm
by frugal
Hi
Why you stopped adding savings!?
Regards
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 2:27 am
by Grinch
Okay, that's a misunderstanding.
I'm still depositing €1,000 into the account. So the volume is still growing. I'm just no longer buying all asset classes every month, but only when the 15/40 range is hit. Then there's a rebalancing to 4 x 25.
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 2:34 am
by frugal
Grinch wrote: ↑Fri Oct 10, 2025 2:27 am
Okay, that's a misunderstanding.
I'm still depositing €1,000 into the account. So the volume is still growing. I'm just no longer buying all asset classes every month, but only when the 15/40 range is hit. Then there's a rebalancing to 4 x 25.
hi,
so only CASH is growing and waiting bands?
Why not 15-35%?

Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2025 5:10 am
by Grinch
Ok, you got. me
It´s 15/35
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:21 am
by frugal
Hi
Have you thought

to have a second US-PP?
Regards
Re: PP in Deutschland
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:36 am
by Grinch
No, that is no Option
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:11 am
by Mayday_I
Out of curiosity: what was the rationale for switching from buying all asset to increasing the cash portion until the rebalancing band is triggered?
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:07 am
by Grinch
It's simply a matter of costs. The broker charges me a 1.5% savings plan fee for gold. A manual order costs half that.
I'm also not willing to continue buying at any price, given the exorbitantly rising gold price. I buy every month, only to adjust things again in a few months through rebalancing. I'm choosing the more relaxed path here and have little need for action now.
Re: PP in Deutschland
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:46 am
by frugal
Grinch wrote: ↑Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:36 am
No, that is no Option
Why?

Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:40 am
by Grinch
I'm European. The risk or opportunity associated with the US dollar is more than adequately contained in Global Stocks. Over 70% is in North America. I don't need more. The price of gold is also traded in dollars. Gold price increases are currently only muted for euro investors. So why take more risk?
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 6:36 am
by frugal
Grinch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:40 am
I'm European. The risk or opportunity associated with the US dollar is more than adequately contained in Global Stocks. Over 70% is in North America. I don't need more. The price of gold is also traded in dollars. Gold price increases are currently only muted for euro investors. So why take more risk?
Although, it had better CAGR

Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 10:31 am
by Grinch
In Euro or USD?
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:04 pm
by frugal
Grinch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 15, 2025 10:31 am
In Euro or USD?
US-PP had higher returns historically
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:40 am
by Grinch
I've registered that. But I spend my money in euros. I wouldn't buy long-term bonds or cash holdings in USD. I'm also adding currency risk to my portfolio in addition to interest rate risk. So, not an option for me. Global Stocks and gold offer sufficient risk.
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 3:40 am
by Grinch
After switching from savings plans to bandwidth, no further transactions were made apart from the monthly savings rate of €1,000. The bandwidth was not affected.

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internal rate of return
2025 = 10.84%
overall = 11.19%
True Time-Weighted Rate of Return (kumulativ)
2025 = 10.35%
overall = 30.53%
Max Drawdown on liberation Day 7.41%
Performance 2025
Stocks (VANGEIS) = 6,48%
Bonds (VGYETII) = -9,14%
Gold (4GLD) = 46,35%
The US dollar lost approximately 14% against the euro.
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 3:41 am
by Grinch

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Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:41 am
by dualstow
According to google translate,
aktien, anleihen, barbestand mean
stocks, bonds, and cash balance respectively.
That’s a curious word, barbestan. Sounds like one of those breakaway republics near Azerbaijan. //Edit: I omitted the d, my bad. With the d, it doesn’t sound so much like a country in Central Asia after all.
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:45 am
by Grinch
Itˋs Not barbestan, that Sounds Like babarian
Barbestand is the correct German Word
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:51 am
by Mayday_I
Barbestand klingt nach... Accouting?
Interesting Update, thanks a lot!
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 10:23 am
by dualstow
Grinch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:45 am
Itˋs Not barbestan, that Sounds Like babarian
Barbestan
d is the correct German Word
Whoops, sorry about that.

Will edit
Re: PP in Germany
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2025 12:09 pm
by frugal
3 fantastic years!
Last 13 weren’t like this unfortunately

