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Re: Familiar?
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:30 pm
by dualstow
Fair enough. Google is a monstrous organization that has trod all over its old “Don’t be evil” slogan (great stock though). However, it is a verb. It’s in the dictionary. So, I will continue to use it — I’m also not going to call you by your pronouns — and feel free to interpret it as Bing it, Duckduckgo search it, or whatever you please.
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:25 pm
by yankees60
dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:30 pm
Fair enough. Google is a monstrous organization that has trod all over its old “Don’t be evil” slogan (great stock though). However, it is a verb. It’s in the dictionary. So, I will continue to use it — I’m also not going to call you by your pronouns — and feel free to interpret it as Bing it, Duckduckgo search it, or whatever you please.
And, I won't call your by your pronouns!
I think the only time I do use Google is when I'm doing a search on books as I don't think that Bing has that feature.
I do, though, have a GoogleFi cell phone and use GoogleFi for my cell phone service.
Vinny
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:33 pm
by dualstow
Me, too. Great service so far.
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:05 pm
by yankees60
dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:33 pm
Me, too. Great service so far.
The major attraction for me was that the phones can make calls on WiFi. A year or two earlier I'd finally succumbed to get cell phone service. I think it was Ting. But for the rural area I live the only place I could get service was in my driveway. That was not going to work.
At my building where my office is at, I'm constantly seeing people to into the vestibule or outside use their cell phones. The one day I did use my cell phone it worked perfectly in my office (presumably off WiFi).
Vinny
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:21 am
by Kbg
Grant was magnanimous at a personal level, but he had no love for the ideals of slavery or the people who favored them by the time the civil war ended. The war changed him and Lincoln, it made them LESS tolerant of slavery. The latter part of the quote was my intent for posting. Bad is bad and the stars and bars and nazi swastika represent bad.
Side note, he’s faring pretty well amongst more modern historians. All history is revisionist, but the modern consensus is that a lot of his bad rap was a deliberate reading/interpretation of history in order to rewrite the root cause of the civil war and depict reconstruction in a bad light.
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:37 am
by Xan
Kbg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:21 am
Grant was magnanimous at a personal level, but he had no love for the ideals of slavery or the people who favored them by the time the civil war ended. The war changed him and Lincoln, it made them LESS tolerant of slavery. The latter part of the quote was my intent for posting. Bad is bad and the stars and bars and nazi swastika represent bad.
Side note, he’s faring pretty well amongst more modern historians. All history is revisionist, but the modern consensus is that a lot of his bad rap was a deliberate reading/interpretation of history in order to rewrite the root cause of the civil war and depict reconstruction in a bad light.
Comparing the Confederate flag to the Nazi swastika is not really fair, IMO.
By the way, the Stars & Bars is a Confederate flag, but probably isn't the one you mean. This is the Stars & Bars:

It's often the selection of people who have to fly a Confederate flag but don't want people to know about it. It's common in "six flags over Texas" displays, for example. The Confederacy's first inclination was to use the Stars & Stripes, and make the federals choose a new flag, because they were the ones performing a revolution. But the Stars & Bars were adopted instead. That proved too similar on the battlefield, so a battle flag was designed (typically now known as "the Confederate flag"). That design was featured in the other two national flags, but was never itself the flag of the government: only of the soldiers serving in defense of their homes.
Regardless, the Confederate flag has flown everywhere that local people have gotten together to attempt to throw off know-everything, do-everything government. For example, at the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:21 am
by yankees60
Kbg wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:21 am
Grant was magnanimous at a personal level, but he had no love for the ideals of slavery or the people who favored them by the time the civil war ended. The war changed him and Lincoln, it made them LESS tolerant of slavery. The latter part of the quote was my intent for posting. Bad is bad and the stars and bars and nazi swastika represent bad.
Side note, he’s faring pretty well amongst more modern historians. All history is revisionist, but the modern consensus is that a lot of his bad rap was a deliberate reading/interpretation of history in order to rewrite the root cause of the civil war and depict reconstruction in a bad light.
I've relayed the following elsewhere, a while ago but....when I was in third grade I read a book on the American presidents. And, from reading that book I decided my three favorites were Jefferson, Lincoln, and Grant. (Which then made me self-declare myself to now be a Republican).
In January 2017 I read this excellent book:
https://smile.amazon.com/Grant-Jean-Edw ... l_huc_item Grant
It definitely portrays Grant as being one of our greatest presidents and having tremendous personal character values which he lived out in his life. It was amazing how much he achieved given the many, many low points in his life.
Vinny
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:47 pm
by Kbg
Xan,
I find your posts and board personality to be nothing but pleasant and enjoyable. So let’s put this in the category of I respectfully but strongly disagree and leave it at that.
With a nod toward you being correct on the flag history. I did take consolation in knowing apparently I’m not the first. :-)
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:45 am
by Kbg
I’m in the process of reading Chernow’s book on Grant. It’s very good. He definitely wins the title of comeback kid.
Re: Familiar?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:03 am
by Xan
Kbg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:47 pm
Xan,
I find your posts and board personality to be nothing but pleasant and enjoyable. So let’s put this in the category of I respectfully but strongly disagree and leave it at that.
With a nod toward you being correct on the flag history. I did take consolation in knowing apparently I’m not the first. :-)
Fair enough! And the flag thing is a very common mistake.