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Recently, yes, but I would think it would have to be the case in any historical realigning election.yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pmFair to say this is unprecedented for either side?Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
Vinny
Two words:Cortopassi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 pm
Trump will not get the house back and may lose the senate. Good luck with Trump getting anything done the next four years.
glennds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:32 pmTwo words:Cortopassi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 pm
Trump will not get the house back and may lose the senate. Good luck with Trump getting anything done the next four years.
Executive. Orders.
yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pmFair to say this is unprecedented for either side?Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
Vinny
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:09 pmNever before in history has the corrupt Washington establishment been so terrified of one man.Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:02 pmyankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pmFair to say this is unprecedented for either side?Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
Vinny
The only other time I am aware of where there was a significant defection by party regulars in a presidential election was 1896. Many Democrats, including President Cleveland, refused to back the party's nominee William J. Bryan over his support for free silver and debt repudiation. But this is different. These are not policy disagreements. Never in our history have so prominent men and women from both sides of the aisle pronounced a sitting president to be morally, intellectually and temperamentally unfit for office.
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:34 pmOf course you have no evidence for any of those attacks, just anger at half the voting public.Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:24 pmLibertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:09 pmNever before in history has the corrupt Washington establishment been so terrified of one man.Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:02 pmyankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 pmFair to say this is unprecedented for either side?Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
Vinny
The only other time I am aware of where there was a significant defection by party regulars in a presidential election was 1896. Many Democrats, including President Cleveland, refused to back the party's nominee William J. Bryan over his support for free silver and debt repudiation. But this is different. These are not policy disagreements. Never in our history have so prominent men and women from both sides of the aisle pronounced a sitting president to be morally, intellectually and temperamentally unfit for office.
And not since the 1930s have so many otherwise rational people fallen under the spell of a demagogue and carnival barker. Trump is a con artist and the GOP has become a political cult made of kooks, cranks and conspiracy theorists, with more than a smattering of outright bigots.
With any luck, you'll have another 4 years to rage against that same half of the voting public, when your demented standard-bearer goes down in flames.
Most of the Rino's have been against Trump since the beginning,Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
I don't watch many news shows.
Seriously? Both of these sites were highly pro-Trump link collections. Many of them were to Twitter threads, memes, and other social media posts. Is this your primary source of information?shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 amI don't watch many news shows.
Mostly from a wide variety of sources from the internet
https://rantingly.com/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
to name a few.
Note, there maybe some bias but if you search enough you can make up your own mind.
glennds wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:08 amSeriously? Both of these sites were highly pro-Trump link collections. Many of them were to Twitter threads, memes, and other social media posts. Is this your primary source of information?shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 amI don't watch many news shows.
Mostly from a wide variety of sources from the internet
https://rantingly.com/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/
to name a few.
Note, there maybe some bias but if you search enough you can make up your own mind.
I wasn't asking sarcastically. I too think CNN is too opinion driven, so I was hoping for a lead to a balanced news outlet. I have found PBS News Hour to be pretty good but I'm still searching.
shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:27 am
The few times I have seen One America news it has been alright, Most of the News outlets are controlled I think by 6 companies.
The only option I have is to get a wide variety of information and try to decipher it to form my opinion.
Yes,even from Tweeter, sometimes you get to the base of the info, and not 3rd hand info.
It is not as easy as just following a Right leaning or Left leaning source and believe what they say.
It gets easier to weed out BS with different sources.
I do like to read the comments section also. On some sites you can get decent opinions/views.
Correction, most of the RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning.shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:06 amMost of the Rino's have been against Trump since the beginning,Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
So if asked, most Trump people don't give a tinker's damn about what these people think.
If you are a Biden person is it just justification on their choice.
Given that some Dems have endorsed Trump also.
So if you ask Biden people, Most likely they don't care for the Dems that are supporting Trump ?
P.s. I rate CNN is an opinion show and not news.
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It has been really sad to see the decline of the WAPO. I used to read them a lot in the 90s to mid-2000s and they were really good back then. But completely agree with your comment NOW. I often wonder if they and the NYT compete with each other for most biased print news. In any event, I think the decline went into free fall after Bezos bought them.WiseOne wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:16 pm I haven't found any news source that I would consider completely unbiased, but Reason Magazine is pretty close.
CNN and the Washington Post are really the bottom of the barrel - the phrase "too opinion-driven" is way too kind. Virtually every headline article is pure opinion, devoid of hard information, and I've caught them simply making stuff up several times. It's like they've long ago given up any pretense of journalism. If any of you are relying on them for news....definitely go find some other sources NOW.
Kbg wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:29 amCorrection, most of the RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning.shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:06 amMost of the Rino's have been against Trump since the beginning,Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
So if asked, most Trump people don't give a tinker's damn about what these people think.
If you are a Biden person is it just justification on their choice.
Given that some Dems have endorsed Trump also.
So if you ask Biden people, Most likely they don't care for the Dems that are supporting Trump ?
P.s. I rate CNN is an opinion show and not news.
I
Trumpians are RINOs...yes I'm flipping the term because it is a more accurate use of the term.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:58 amIt's an interesting claim that RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning. I'd like to see evidence of that, because I've never seen any.shekels wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:40 amSo if that is true (which I disagree) What changed the RINO's mind to be against Trump Now?Kbg wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:29 amCorrection, most of the RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning.shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:06 amMost of the Rino's have been against Trump since the beginning,Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
So if asked, most Trump people don't give a tinker's damn about what these people think.
If you are a Biden person is it just justification on their choice.
Given that some Dems have endorsed Trump also.
So if you ask Biden people, Most likely they don't care for the Dems that are supporting Trump ?
P.s. I rate CNN is an opinion show and not news.
I
With trump being non deep state outsider/Non beltway crowd from the beginning.
gotcha.Kbg wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:39 pmTrumpians are RINOs...yes I'm flipping the term because it is a more accurate use of the term.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:58 amIt's an interesting claim that RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning. I'd like to see evidence of that, because I've never seen any.shekels wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:40 amSo if that is true (which I disagree) What changed the RINO's mind to be against Trump Now?Kbg wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:29 amCorrection, most of the RINOs have been for Trump from the beginning.shekels wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:06 amMost of the Rino's have been against Trump since the beginning,Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:57 am More than two dozen former Republican lawmakers endorse Joe Biden on first day of GOP convention
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics ... index.html
So if asked, most Trump people don't give a tinker's damn about what these people think.
If you are a Biden person is it just justification on their choice.
Given that some Dems have endorsed Trump also.
So if you ask Biden people, Most likely they don't care for the Dems that are supporting Trump ?
P.s. I rate CNN is an opinion show and not news.
I
With trump being non deep state outsider/Non beltway crowd from the beginning.
Personal life, not socially conservative
Fiscal policies, not fiscally conservative
Power to the lowest level, not a constitutional literalist, as we all know he picks and chooses and is not driven by a conservative philosophy
Foreign policy, I can't say. I think everyone's foreign policy is in reset mode. However, generally I give him mixed marks. Some stuff I like a lot. Looking after the USA first, China and NATO...all very good in my opinion. Russia, Canada, Asia/Non-China, not so much. And I'm thoroughly convinced the Russians have something on him...it's the only way I can explain his actions.
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/statu ... 94464?s=20If you're a white guy who can afford a lawyer, & you're charged with a crime, you're not charged with nine crimes. Nine, & given nine alternatives & say, 'if you plead to the lay, the, the least one, we're gonna put you on probation,' and, but, and you have no lawyer. Or you have a public defender who's getting paid half the federal prosecutor's getting paid. Public defenders are gonna get paid the same of federal public defenders, the same amount as prosecutors are gonna get paid. So you have representation.