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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:33 pm
by Libertarian666
dualstow wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:29 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:25 pm
CT-Scott wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:30 am I also believe that the entire concept of "Intellectual Property" is immoral
...
I used to have that opinion too.

Not any more. Read https://www.amazon.com/Origitent-Why-Or ... B07DRQ9NWC to find out why. I'll send you a copy if you don't want to pay the $2.99.
Irony!
Not really. I can give away my own IP without violating my own rights.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:36 pm
by dualstow
I thought your name was Steve. ??? You’re J. Neil S....?

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:47 pm
by Libertarian666
dualstow wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:36 pm I thought your name was Steve. ??? You’re J. Neil S....?
No, which is a good thing because he died last August. I'm a contributor and bought a bunch of copies to give away.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:51 pm
by dualstow
Ahh. Sorry to hear it.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:32 pm
by CT-Scott
For anyone not following that IP thread, check it out. I called in the big guns. :)

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:59 pm
by yankees60
A message from President Daniels regarding fall semester

https://www.purdue.edu/president/messag ... essage.php

"But in other respects, a place like Purdue may be in better position to resume its mission. Our campus community, a “city” of 50,000+ people, is highly unusual in its makeup. At least 80% of our population is made up of young people, say, 35 and under. All data to date tell us that the COVID-19 virus, while it transmits rapidly in this age group, poses close to zero lethal threat to them.

Meanwhile, the virus has proven to be a serious danger to other, older demographic groups, especially those with underlying health problems. The roughly 20% of our Purdue community who are over 35 years old contains a significant number of people with diabetes, asthma, hypertension, and other ailments which together comprise a very high percentage of the fatal and most severe COVID-19 cases.

We will consider new policies and practices that keep these groups separate, or minimize contact between them. Literally, our students pose a far greater danger to others than the virus poses to them. We all have a role, and a responsibility, in ensuring the health of the Purdue community.

The approaches below are preliminary, meant to be illustrative of the objectives we will pursue. View them as examples, likely to be replaced by better ideas as we identify and validate them.

They could include spreading out classes across days and times to reduce their size, more use of online instruction for on-campus students, virtualizing laboratory work, and similar steps."


Vinny

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:03 pm
by bedraggled
Yesterday 4/21, Jim Cramer on Mad Money discussed the charting/technical analysis work of Larry Williams. Cramer said Larry is one of the best. Williams applied his charting to the virus and found down channels in each nation, from South Korea to Iran. He determined down channels in every nation examined. Mr. Williams, apparently, is suggesting USA is in a down channel with a conclusion of this first wave on 5/11 or 5/12.

I am not the go to person on this. Thought I'd post what I saw last night.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:31 pm
by yankees60
This is exactly what I pointed out.

Vinny

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbu ... spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:28 pm
by dualstow
I saw the tail end of a Vice report on/by this Chen QiuShi (CQS) guy tonight. Scary.
https://medium.com/@soareschen/coronavi ... 1c391146c8

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:26 pm
by yankees60
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:29 pm
by yankees60
Greece Has an Elderly Population and a Fragile Economy. How Has It Escaped the Worst of the Coronavirus So Far


https://time.com/5824836/greece-coronavirus/

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:29 am
by yankees60
MangoMan wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:08 am
yankees60 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:31 pm This is exactly what I pointed out.

Vinny

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbu ... spartanntp
You had to figure the stupidity of paying people that extra $600 was going to blow up.
When I worked with a business owner earlier this month to put in an application for the loan just before we submitted it she directly realized the conflict between the loan (favoring the owner) and unemployment (favoring the employees). I told her to submit and we'd just take it one step at a time later. First seeing if the loan was approved. And, then if it is making a final decisions of which way to go.

Vinny

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:01 am
by shekels
dualstow wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:28 pm I saw the tail end of a Vice report on/by this Chen QiuShi (CQS) guy tonight. Scary.
https://medium.com/@soareschen/coronavi ... 1c391146c8
I think this is one of the people in Wuhan that came up missing.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:40 am
by dualstow
Yes he disappeared in February according to the missus. (My missus, not his).

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:53 am
by shekels
dualstow wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:40 am Yes he disappeared in February according to the missus. (My missus, not his).
Sad :(

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:54 pm
by CT-Scott
yankees60 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:31 pm This is exactly what I pointed out.

Vinny

She got a forgivable loan. Her employees hate her for it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbu ... spartanntp
Great read. Yeah, that sucks. I feel for her. She needs the loan to avoid bankruptcy, right? I also don't blame her workers for preferring to get paid more to not work.

Perhaps another option is for her to collect unemployment herself and defer paying the rent/mortgage for her salons (given other government intervention currently in place which seems to be allowing people to not pay rent/mortgages and still avoid eviction)?

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:00 pm
by CT-Scott
Vinny, here's the full Dog vs Cat op-ed:
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:38 pm
by dualstow
CT-Scott wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:00 pm Vinny, here's the full Dog vs Cat op-ed:
EV8CHN0XQAAmZvp.jpg
That is hilarious. Found the text at the WSJ.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:12 pm
by CT-Scott
dualstow wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:38 pm
CT-Scott wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:00 pm Vinny, here's the full Dog vs Cat op-ed:
EV8CHN0XQAAmZvp.jpg
That is hilarious. Found the text at the WSJ.
I didn't read it until after I posted it. I think the idea was clever, and it was a mostly-funny read, but I suspect the author has never been a cat owner based on this quote (written by the cat):
We (sort of) love you, and appreciate the occasional pats on the head...
Cats don't like "pats on the head."

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:26 pm
by dualstow
Agree. Strokes on the head, maybe.
Btw, search google images for 'how to pet a cat' and the "body map" results.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:07 pm
by WiseOne
Cortopassi wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:09 pm Assuming this chart is accurate (from Mish's blog), this puts it into more perspective for me.

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There's an even better indicator, because counts of coronavirus deaths are subject to a ridiculous # of issues - overcounting based on positive testing, undercounting based on limited testing etc: examining total mortality and comparing to previous year's #s:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mortality- ... 1587558540

In NYC, mortality during the peak caseload in late March/early April was as much as 2.5x normal. It remains to be seen whether these deaths were simply advanced by a few months, but it seems more likely that the people dying of COVID could have lived for at least a few years with a decent quality of life, based on #s for life expectancy from a given age.

p.s. funny article but cats didn't get a fair shake! My cats are THRILLED that I'm home all day. I get requests about every 15 minutes that roughly translate as "Pet me now!" or "Let me into this cabinet with all the breakable glass!" or "Give me a treat!" or "Play with me!" except of course when they're sleeping in which case I am not to bother them. Nice life.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:02 pm
by yankees60
CT-Scott wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:00 pm Vinny, here's the full Dog vs Cat op-ed:

EV8CHN0XQAAmZvp.jpg
Thanks! Tiny, tiny...but I was able to read it! Excellent!

Vinny

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:06 pm
by Tortoise
yankees60 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:02 pm Thanks! Tiny, tiny...but I was able to read it! Excellent!
View --> Zoom In :)

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:14 pm
by yankees60
Tortoise wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:06 pm
yankees60 wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:02 pm Thanks! Tiny, tiny...but I was able to read it! Excellent!
View --> Zoom In :)

Forgot about that. However, even at my advanced age, I was still able to read it all without any aid. Near sighted still works.


Vinny

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:17 pm
by dualstow
dualstow wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:36 am ...
We’ve got cleaner air, fewer car accidents, fewer murders...
One correction: I did read that there are more auto-ped deaths. With fewer cars on the road, some drivers are blowing stop signs, driving too fast and, whoops, killing pedestrians.