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Complete idiots guide to Iran and the bomb

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:59 pm
by notsheigetz

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:04 pm
by Bean
Just to add more scary to the current situation:
Hackers linked to China’s government broke into one of the U.S. government’s most sensitive computer networks, breaching a system used by the White House Military Office for nuclear commands
http://freebeacon.com/white-house-hack-attack/

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:09 am
by dualstow
Thats really funny! I remember a Chinese news service being fooled in the past and when I tried googling for it just now, I found the NYT and Fox among many others have also been fooled!

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:59 am
by murphy_p_t
dualstow wrote:
murphy_p_t wrote: It seems the answer to "When Will Iran Be Attacked?" is ASAP...to hear this lobbyist...under any pretext available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbb ... r_embedded
Patrick Clawson is misguided IMO but the comments on that page are disgusting and disgraceful.
This article puts Mr. Clawson's comments in a broader context.

http://www.infowars.com/will-israel-blo ... t-on-iran/

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:37 am
by dualstow
murphy_p_t wrote: This article puts Mr. Clawson's comments in a broader context.

http://www.infowars.com/will-israel-blo ... t-on-iran/
Although my first reaction after clicking was, If I should have an untimely death, could one of you break in and edit my browser history? You can leave the links to smut, but I don't want my mother to see that I visited Infowars...
I will readily concede that Israel has a long history of bungled amateur spy missions. I read about a lot of them in the first book by ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky (not sure about his last name, but the title was "By Way of Deception.") Assassinating an innocent waiter in Norway, stealing information that they could have gotten by asking, etc. And I have no defense for them. They fall under the the category of things that I intensely dislike about Israel, and are a huge embarrassment.

Is Israel "training and supporting Iranian terrorists who are trying to topple the Iranian government"? I wouldn't doubt it. That's what I would shoot for (sans casualties) if I were in charge. One of the most interesting sections in the book I mentioned above is how they successfully aided both belligerents in the Iran-Iraq war, hoping to weaken each side as much possible.

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:52 am
by MediumTex
dualstow wrote: Although my first reaction after clicking was, If I should have an untimely death, could one of you break in and edit my browser history? You can leave the links to smut, but I don't want my mother to see that I visited Infowars...
That is hilarious.

I am hearing the voice of the Black Adder speaking the words.

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Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:56 am
by stone
dualstow
One of the most interesting sections in the book I mentioned above is how they successfully aided both belligerents in the Iran-Iraq war, hoping to weaken each side as much possible.
I think all of the colonial powers in the 19th and early 20th centuries also did a lot of such divide and rule nastiness. It just creates a huge septic pool of hate that poisons everyone for generations.

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:12 pm
by dualstow
MediumTex wrote: That is hilarious.

I am hearing the voice of the Black Adder speaking the words.
I'm a huge fan. My other half has perfect pitch and often sings/hums the theme song while getting ready for work.
stone wrote:I think all of the colonial powers in the 19th and early 20th centuries also did a lot of such divide and rule nastiness.
As well as the spygames. Humans are ridiculous, we know we're ridiculous and yet we can't help ourselves.

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:49 pm
by MediumTex
dualstow wrote: Humans are ridiculous, we know we're ridiculous and yet we can't help ourselves.
Now you're just channeling the Black Adder.

Re: When Will Iran Be Attacked?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:01 pm
by dualstow
MediumTex wrote:
dualstow wrote: Humans are ridiculous, we know we're ridiculous and yet we can't help ourselves.
Now you're just channeling the Black Adder.
hahaha, no, that one's all me! Blackadder has nothing but scorn for the ridiculous people who surround him. I have compassion for them (and for me).