Gyroscopic Investing

Kbg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:20 pm Yesterday was completely awful. I don’t remember it very well. In the evening I started wondering if my extreme fatigue was due to electrolyte levels and remembered we have some powdered Gatorade in the walk-in. I downed a couple of glasses and felt instantly better. Today is better, though definitely sick still.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:50 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:50 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am Also see Illusory Superiority which of course has much bearing on the PP and investing in general.

Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:04 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am Also see Illusory Superiority which of course has much bearing on the PP and investing in general.

Xan,
I am a legend in my own mind. It's been working for me so far. 60 years and counting

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:38 am

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:54 am

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am So you guys with self-diagnosed awesome immune systems: why are you afraid of all of the vaccines, then?

Surely there are things that would overwhelm even your systems, right? Measles, mumps, rubella? Polio? Tetanus? Shingles? Hepatitis? Do you get these vaccines? When you travel to weird places do you get the typhoid or yellow fever vaccines?

Regardless, I don't understand the position of being afraid of the vaccine (which trains your own super-awesome immune system to recognize Covid) but have no qualms about contracting (and passing along) the disease itself.

At what point did I ever say I was "afraid" of the vaccine? I have never gotten a flu vaccine either. I think I have gotten the flu once and was mildly sick for two days. So getting a vaccine for the flu is not something that ever crosses my mind but I wouldn't say my not getting it makes me "afraid" of it. That is a manipulative term loaded with moral pressure.

I also do not remember saying my immune system was awesome and I was not trying to imply I am better than anyone else. I was simply agreeing with Mark's post that I have rarely been sick in my 52 years on earth and when that is the case you don't really think about avoiding sickness because it is never top of mind.

My health history combined with my readings that natural immunity gained from getting Covid is a higher efficacy than the vaccine doesn't make me want to run out and get it just because the majority of society tells me that I should. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I know what is best for others.

Are you vaccinated against anything at all? If so, why? Does your doctor recommend getting any vaccines (specifically a Covid vaccine), or does he count as "the majority of society"?

The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

That works fine until it doesn't. Good luck.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:50 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am
Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

Capture.JPGCapture2.JPG

Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

glennds wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:15 am

Do Republicans give birth to Republicans?

If I were forced to guess, I would assume parents influence their kids political worldview, so probably yes, Republicans will raise Republicans, especially in an environment of tribalism.

But then the demographics say the millennial generation is gravitating Democrat so there must be defections going on. Why is that? Social media?
I think many baby boomers broke ranks with their conservative parents.

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 am


The only vaccines that I have taken are the ones my parents gave me as a child. I have had no others since I was a teenager. I also am not on any prescription or OTC drugs. Not because I am "afraid" of them but because firstly I never have ailments that need them and if I ever do have something, I am the type to try to find out the root cause and make changes than I am to take a pill to cover up the issue. For example, when I had a bout of acid reflux many years ago, instead of immediately going out to get pills, I simply changed my diet and it immediately improved.

I have not been to a doctor in many years because, again, I never get sick. It is probably hard to conceptualize because our society tends to be one where a lot of people have various illnesses and therefore they are (rightly) focused on taking steps to remain "healthy" as they see it. But when you go years and never have a day when you have the flu or have a cold and you have no chronic illnesses that need tending to, then it is not something that you constantly think about, monitor and take precautions for. For people who have chronic illnesses I don't in any way begrudge them for a taking a vaccine for a virus they might catch. However, I am not sure why so many others are so obsessed with my non-obsession over it.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:08 am Regardless of what I think of your immune system, your posts here, and your remarkable and enviable life, are a major positive of the forum.

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:02 pm My mother in law was in a mood, and fighting with my father in law about never having been traveling when they were able, and now that they have money, are too old and physically hampered to enjoy it.

Cortopassi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:02 pm

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:08 am
Regardless of what I think of your immune system, your posts here, and your remarkable and enviable life, are a major positive of the forum.

You know, I have given this some thought recently. My mother in law was in a mood, and fighting with my father in law about never having been traveling when they were able, and now that they have money, are too old and physically hampered to enjoy it.

While I love the pictures Mark shows, I despise traveling. I have maybe had one bed in the past 30 years of vacations that has been comfortable. You live out of a small room, and use a shower that 9 times out of 10 has bad pressure and lukewarm water. There are noises from the AC or heater that wake you up. Doors slamming in the hallway, etc.

While I enjoy the daytimes when we've traveled, the nights have generally been shit, and overwhelm the good over time, so that after a week or two, all I want to do is get the fuck home.

So...remarkable...yes. Enviable... not necessarily! I am a homebody. I like putzing around my own house, in my own bed.

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:50 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

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Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious? I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any source for this?

jalanlong wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 am …
If it stops working tomorrow I will at least feel appreciative that didn’t spend 52 years obsessing over anything and everything that could possibly have made me ill. I have wasted precious little of my time on earth in doctor’s offices trying to prevent what will eventually be inevitable anyway.

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:35 pm

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am

Xan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:50 am

yankees60 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:59 am Do you agree with the logic of his analysis or find it to be fallacious?

Vinny

Capture.JPGCapture2.JPG

Regardless of whether or not that's true, it's probably dwarfed by the Republican advantage in birth rates. For what that's worth.

I cannot tell if you are being serious or facetious? I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any source for this?

https://www.fatherly.com/health-science ... -children/

Not that it makes much of a difference—staunch conservatives who are procreating to stack the ballot box are likely to be disappointed by their Occupy Wall Street children, and it is unlikely that the political fertility gap will have any bearing on how adults vote. Although it is true that some studies suggest that 70 percent of teens vote like their parents, more recent work suggests that parents who insist on their political views at home are more likely to see their children abandon those beliefs in college.