Coronavirus General Discussion

[Kriegsspiel]

[Maddy]

A girl can't be too careful out here, Pug and Kriegs. It's when I start talking to him that you need to worry.

[yankees60]

Just heard another great quote to memorize that I just heard on C-Span from the Police Chief of Buffalo.

"The virus does not move on its own. It takes people to move the virus!"

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

Right, it's so simple and common-sense, it makes all those people saying "the virus doesn't obey borders" sound like real dumbasses.

[yankees60]

Right, it's so simple and common-sense, it makes all those people saying "the virus doesn't obey borders" sound like real dumbasses.

And, it qualifies as being one of those highly sought "sound bites", it can fit on a bumper sticker. In other words, it can be understood by the majority of Americans!


Vinny

[dualstow]

How about it takes a virus to raze a village

[yankees60]

How about it takes a virus to raze a village

Like it! But it's more descriptive than proscriptive...

Vinny

[Smith1776]

Stocks rebounding? I'm thinking this is a dead cat bounce of some kind, but it's hard to know for sure.

The market seems to be pricing in a best case scenario in terms of the overall economic fallout of this pandemic.

[Libertarian666]

https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... sight.html

[Cortopassi]

Connie Willis, the Doomsday Book.

I am about 25% through the book. Great book so far. Some parallels are pretty spot on. And thankfully we live now vs. the 1300s!

Considering it was written in 1992 and set in 2054, the only major item that feels strange is the lack of mobile phones. Everyone was still hampered by having to use a landline in the book.

[Cortopassi]

From the NY press conference today, the purple line is where the actual numbers are. Cuomo is talking it down.

There are definitely times I think people don't want to hear positive news...

[dualstow]

Japan's Abe to declare state of emergency.
https://youtu.be/0rG2rz2HMdc

[Tyler]

There are definitely times I think people don't want to hear positive news...

Rational people working themselves into a frenzy over worst-case scenarios while not just ignoring but attacking any positive news (see the bile being spewed over real-world hydroxychloroquine results) has been one of the most interesting phenomenons I've witnessed in the past few weeks. Psychiatrists could write entire volumes on what's going on right now.

Take care of yourselves. Not only physically but also mentally.

[Tyler]

More potential good news:

US scientists link BCG vaccination with fewer coronavirus cases

Long story short, countries that still regularly vaccinate for tuberculosis seem to have much lower death rates than those that do not. They're testing that theory now, and if it holds up to scrutiny the TB vaccine could be widely distributed relatively quickly since it has been around forever.

[Tortoise]

My view of the census: It'll be a cold day in Hell before I volunteer information about my household's demographics given the very real possibility of civil unrest.

Are census data for specific addresses public record? I.e., anyone can search census data to find out how many people live at a specific address, and what their gender and race is?

Or are the data accessible only by census officials, but the concern is that it could potentially be leaked to the public?

[Ad Orientem]

My view of the census: It'll be a cold day in Hell before I volunteer information about my household's demographics given the very real possibility of civil unrest.

Are census data for specific addresses public record? I.e., anyone can search census data to find out how many people live at a specific address, and what their gender and race is?

Or are the data accessible only by census officials, but the concern is that it could potentially be leaked to the public?

Census data and forms are eventually made public, but not for a very long time. They only recently made all the info collected in 1940 available. I browsed some of it looking for ancestors. It was fascinating.

[dualstow]

Same here. I found the street my mother grew up on and reported the details to her. It was fascinating.

[dualstow]

Coronavirus Hits Meat Plants as Some Workers Get Sick, Others Stay Home
Beef, chicken and pork operations are affected in several states, though overall U.S. meat supply has been high

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronaviru ... 1586196511

Put the raw beef tataki on hold for now, then. (obligatory emoji to annoy Xan )

[Kriegsspiel]

Coronavirus Hits Meat Plants as Some Workers Get Sick, Others Stay Home
Beef, chicken and pork operations are affected in several states, though overall U.S. meat supply has been high

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronaviru ... 1586196511

Put the raw beef tataki on hold for now, then. (obligatory emoji to annoy Xan )

“We’ve got plenty of animal protein in the U.S., more than we can consume,” said Mr. Steiner.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED MOTHERFUCKER

[Tortoise]

Just returned from my daily walk, and in front of one of the homes in my neighborhood I saw a police parking enforcement golf cart. You know, the kind that drives all day through neighborhoods and issues citations for literally every parking violation, no matter how minor.

Glad to see an "essential business" still able to collect revenue during this crisis!

[yankees60]

Just returned from my daily walk, and in front of one of the homes in my neighborhood I saw a police parking enforcement golf cart. You know, the kind that drives all day through neighborhoods and issues citations for literally every parking violation, no matter how minor.

Glad to see an "essential business" still able to collect revenue during this crisis!

Never have seen one of those.

When the Police Chief of Buffalo was being interviewed on C-Span this morning he said crime was way down. And, one of the reasons was because the police have stopped initiating. Not stopping drivers for traffic violations so no longer undercovering the secondary crimes that get uncovered during a traffic stop.

Vinny

[Tortoise]

Just returned from my daily walk, and in front of one of the homes in my neighborhood I saw a police parking enforcement golf cart. You know, the kind that drives all day through neighborhoods and issues citations for literally every parking violation, no matter how minor.

Never have seen one of those.

I think they're far more common in densely populated urban and suburban neighborhoods -- where the revenue generated exceeds the parking enforcer's hourly wage and thereby makes it a profitable activity for the city.

I recall you said you live in a sparsely populated rural area, so I wouldn't expect to see one in your neck of the woods.

[yankees60]

Just returned from my daily walk, and in front of one of the homes in my neighborhood I saw a police parking enforcement golf cart. You know, the kind that drives all day through neighborhoods and issues citations for literally every parking violation, no matter how minor.

Never have seen one of those.

I think they're far more common in densely populated urban and suburban neighborhoods -- where the revenue generated exceeds the parking enforcer's hourly wage and thereby makes it a profitable activity for the city.

I recall you said you live in a sparsely populated rural area, so I wouldn't expect to see one in your neck of the woods.

We do have parking meters in the city where I work. And, they do have someone walking around handing out tickets. I once wrote a letter to my local newspaper describing what I'd witnessed. I was walking back to my car early one morning and saw a ticket being handed out to the only other car that was parked on the street. I asked what kind of image that gave the city do show no common sense in giving out a ticket under those circumstances. It got published.

Vinny

[yankees60]

Tracking Public Opinion on the Coronavirus


https://morningconsult.com/form/trackin ... kifQ%3D%3D

[yankees60]

How a Ship’s Coronavirus Outbreak Became a Moral Crisis for the Military

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/p ... ticleShare

"In a profanity-laced reprimand, the acting Navy secretary criticized sailors aboard the Theodore Roosevelt for cheering their fired captain, who had requested more assistance to fight the infection."

"When his 15-minute speech was over, signing off with a tepid “Go Navy,” Mr. Modly had effectively drawn an invisible line between him and the more than 4,800 crew members of the Roosevelt, one crew member said. This sailor added that many of the crew thought Mr. Modly had called them stupid for putting so much faith in their commanding officer. After Mr. Modly’s speech, junior sailors approached the crew member, he said, looking to leave the service after their first enlistment.

Mr. Modly did not tour the ship, and practically no one, especially those in the lower ranks, even saw him. He was gone in less than 30 minutes."