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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:27 pm
by yankees60
From Bats to Human Lungs, the Evolution of a Coronavirus
https://www.newyorker.com/science/eleme ... al_twitter
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:47 pm
by dualstow
Excellent article, that New Yorker piece.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:07 pm
by Mark Leavy
An
interesting research paper that argues that the virus' main attack mechanism is against hemoglobin. The attack is via attachment points on glycated hemoglobin (a high blood sugar condition). This could explain to some extent:
1) Shortness of breath before notable lung damage.
2) Higher risk for men, diabetics and overweight (pre-diabetic).
The paper also posits a mechanism by which hydroxychloriquine would work if the theory is correct.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:54 pm
by Libertarian666
dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:28 pm
Hey I wonder what will happen to the
2020 U.S. Census. They’re not going to still send people to knock on doors, are they? Maybe in winter.
I got a letter and answered the questions online.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:10 pm
by dualstow
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:54 pm
dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:28 pm
Hey I wonder what will happen to the
2020 U.S. Census. They’re not going to still send people to knock on doors, are they? Maybe in winter.
I got a letter and answered the questions online.
Same here, but I mean they generally send out door knockers for all the people who don’t bother to answer by mail or online.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:54 am
by Maddy
My view of the census: It'll be a cold day in Hell before I volunteer information about my household's demographics given the very real possibility of civil unrest. By the way, did I ever mention that my husband is a former marine with PTSD?
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:33 am
by Kriegsspiel
The census
suspended operations until April 15th.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:35 am
by Kriegsspiel
Maddy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:54 am
By the way, did I ever mention that my husband is a former marine with PTSD?
I don't recall you ever having mentioned you were married.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:56 am
by Mark Leavy
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:35 am
Maddy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:54 am
By the way, did I ever mention that my husband is a former marine with PTSD?
I don't recall you ever having mentioned you were married.
Dude... it was right after the unfortunate boating accident.
And Maddy, I like your style.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:56 am
by Libertarian666
dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:10 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:54 pm
dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:28 pm
Hey I wonder what will happen to the
2020 U.S. Census. They’re not going to still send people to knock on doors, are they? Maybe in winter.
I got a letter and answered the questions online.
Same here, but I mean they generally send out door knockers for all the people who don’t bother to answer by mail or online.
A lot of those people are temporary employees hired just for that task. Will they increase the pay due to the hazard? Probably not, so I doubt they will get many takers. Of course there is a lot of unemployment right now but the very generous unemployment compensation payments will probably dissuade people from taking such a temporary position.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:58 am
by Libertarian666
Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:56 am
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:35 am
Maddy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:54 am
By the way, did I ever mention that my husband is a former marine with PTSD?
I don't recall you ever having mentioned you were married.
Dude... it was right after the unfortunate boating accident.
And Maddy, I like your style.
+1
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:48 am
by Maddy
Yeah, and his huge combat boots are right outside the front door to prove it. That and all the 223 casings scattered around.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:18 am
by Kriegsspiel
Ok, now I don't believe you anymore. A MARINE, leaving his boots outside (spider cave) and not policing up his brass? No, this cannot be.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:25 am
by Kriegsspiel
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:43 am
by Maddy
A girl can't be too careful out here, Pug and Kriegs. It's when I start talking to him that you need to worry.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:46 am
by yankees60
Just heard another great quote to memorize that I just heard on C-Span from the Police Chief of Buffalo.
"The virus does not move on its own. It takes people to move the virus!"
Vinny
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:50 am
by Kriegsspiel
Right, it's so simple and common-sense, it makes all those people saying "the virus doesn't obey borders" sound like real dumbasses.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:02 am
by yankees60
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:50 am
Right, it's so simple and common-sense, it makes all those people saying "the virus doesn't obey borders" sound like real dumbasses.
And, it qualifies as being one of those highly sought "sound bites", it can fit on a bumper sticker. In other words, it can be understood by the majority of Americans!
Vinny
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:09 am
by dualstow
How about
it takes a virus to raze a village

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:11 am
by yankees60
dualstow wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:09 am
How about
it takes a virus to raze a village
Like it! But it's more descriptive than proscriptive...
Vinny
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:21 am
by Smith1776
Stocks rebounding? I'm thinking this is a dead cat bounce of some kind, but it's hard to know for sure.
The market seems to be pricing in a best case scenario in terms of the overall economic fallout of this pandemic.
Some good news
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:25 am
by Libertarian666
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:13 am
by Cortopassi
WiseOne wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:25 am
Connie Willis, the Doomsday Book.
I am about 25% through the book. Great book so far. Some parallels are pretty spot on. And thankfully we live now vs. the 1300s!
Considering it was written in 1992 and set in 2054, the only major item that feels strange is the lack of mobile phones. Everyone was still hampered by having to use a landline in the book.
Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:15 am
by Cortopassi
From the NY press conference today, the purple line is where the actual numbers are. Cuomo is talking it down.
There are definitely times I think people don't want to hear positive news...

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am
by dualstow
Japan's Abe to declare state of emergency.
https://youtu.be/0rG2rz2HMdc