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Rusty Ryan: You'd need at least a dozen guys doing a combination of cons.
Good guess! I was here in 2016 and it was quite the party. We'll see about this year.
I'm assuming you're referring to a mind-altering drug. Do you mind sharing which one you tried? I went on a psilocybin mushroom "journey" many years ago, and it was quite the experience.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:56 pm - Tried my first "spiritual journey" a few days ago (think Steve Jobs in his teens)
That last one. I feel profoundly enlightened, profoundly happy, and profoundly sad all at the same time. I can see why people say it's one of the most important things they've ever done. Because it was.
I did psilocybin once and it helped me to recover from PTSD. It's hard to describe what it was like. Best I can say is that I died and it was very colorful and felt REALLY good.Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pmI'm assuming you're referring to a mind-altering drug. Do you mind sharing which one you tried? I went on a psilocybin mushroom "journey" many years ago, and it was quite the experience.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:56 pm - Tried my first "spiritual journey" a few days ago (think Steve Jobs in his teens)
That last one. I feel profoundly enlightened, profoundly happy, and profoundly sad all at the same time. I can see why people say it's one of the most important things they've ever done. Because it was.
Wow... sounds like you took quite a bit more than I did! That's amazing.pp4me wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 pm I did psilocybin once and it helped me to recover from PTSD. It's hard to describe what it was like. Best I can say is that I died and it was very colorful and felt REALLY good.
Strangest thing about it was that right at the point where I died I heard an audible voice that felt like it was forcefully expelling me from wherever I was going with one word. That word was "GO".
Stranger still, when I shared the experience with others who had taken it and started to tell them about that word, they all said it before I did.
Go figure!
The summer when I was 20 years ago it almost seemed like I was doing acid every Saturday. Not quite but it seemed like that was my schedule.pp4me wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 pmI did psilocybin once and it helped me to recover from PTSD. It's hard to describe what it was like. Best I can say is that I died and it was very colorful and felt REALLY good.Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pmI'm assuming you're referring to a mind-altering drug. Do you mind sharing which one you tried? I went on a psilocybin mushroom "journey" many years ago, and it was quite the experience.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:56 pm - Tried my first "spiritual journey" a few days ago (think Steve Jobs in his teens)
That last one. I feel profoundly enlightened, profoundly happy, and profoundly sad all at the same time. I can see why people say it's one of the most important things they've ever done. Because it was.
Strangest thing about it was that right at the point where I died I heard an audible voice that felt like it was forcefully expelling me from wherever I was going with one word. That word was "GO".
Stranger still, when I shared the experience with others who had taken it and started to tell them about that word, they all said it before I did.
Go figure!
I'm actually not sure if it was psilocybin. I know it was one of either psilocybin, mescaline, or peyote - some kind of natural thing. Not sure if there is any difference between them.Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:42 pmWow... sounds like you took quite a bit more than I did! That's amazing.pp4me wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 pm I did psilocybin once and it helped me to recover from PTSD. It's hard to describe what it was like. Best I can say is that I died and it was very colorful and felt REALLY good.
Strangest thing about it was that right at the point where I died I heard an audible voice that felt like it was forcefully expelling me from wherever I was going with one word. That word was "GO".
Stranger still, when I shared the experience with others who had taken it and started to tell them about that word, they all said it before I did.
Go figure!
I never had a bad trip on LSD, at least as far as I could tell, but I helped a few other people have them. Something about it just unleashed an urge to fuck with other people's minds and I was very good at it.yankees60 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:51 pmThe summer when I was 20 years ago it almost seemed like I was doing acid every Saturday. Not quite but it seemed like that was my schedule.pp4me wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 pmI did psilocybin once and it helped me to recover from PTSD. It's hard to describe what it was like. Best I can say is that I died and it was very colorful and felt REALLY good.Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:01 pmI'm assuming you're referring to a mind-altering drug. Do you mind sharing which one you tried? I went on a psilocybin mushroom "journey" many years ago, and it was quite the experience.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:56 pm - Tried my first "spiritual journey" a few days ago (think Steve Jobs in his teens)
That last one. I feel profoundly enlightened, profoundly happy, and profoundly sad all at the same time. I can see why people say it's one of the most important things they've ever done. Because it was.
Strangest thing about it was that right at the point where I died I heard an audible voice that felt like it was forcefully expelling me from wherever I was going with one word. That word was "GO".
Stranger still, when I shared the experience with others who had taken it and started to tell them about that word, they all said it before I did.
Go figure!
Without analyzing it too deeply I'd say I did acid about 20 times around that time period. Mescaline? Once or twice.
Only had 2 bad trips. I analyzed that each of them were due to doing them in locations completely foreign to me in all ways. I think that the only thing that kept me hanging on during each of those two bad ones was that I KNEW that they WOULD each end by the passage of time.
I never liked, though, that it seemed like most of the acid I took must have also had speed in them as invariably they'd keep me awake all night and I'd not be able to get to sleep until about 6 AM the next day.
Doing that acid was never looked upon by me as being any kind of spiritual thing. It was definitely a fun thing with the music sounding way better when I was under the influence.
I cannot restrain from passing on this related...
One of the days I did it with the person who I shared the bedroom with did two hits. Then he went to sleep before the effects starting happen.
Meanwhile I'd put on a Bloodrock record to listen to.
He wakes up, fully tripping, and he is hearing their hit song playing: D.O.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5AtQJ9XTY
For those of you who never heard it the singer is describing being in a car accident where he and his girl friend are killed in it. Complete with the sounds of ambulances and police cars.
He is hearing the lyrics, "Blood is running down my body...."
Now this friend was a heavy smoker, over 300 pounds, and was laying on his stomach when he wakes
up fully tripping. Due to his overall condition at that time, he's not normally an easy breather and this is what he hears!
I counseled him afterward that one thing you don't do after taking a hit(s) of acid is go to sleep!
Vinny
I didn't do any drugs. Possession is a felony, so I would never do that and have never done so. However, hypothetically, if I ever did decide to then LSD would be my choice.
To add to that, Prescription Cannabis is legal in some states here as an alternative to opioids. The fellow I know who is on it, reported much better eyesight and the GP confirmed that is a side-effect. Also made his mind much calmer and sharper, but not sure if I would want to get a crushed spine just to be able to use it legallySmith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:58 pmI didn't do any drugs. Possession is a felony, so I would never do that and have never done so. However, hypothetically, if I ever did decide to then LSD would be my choice.
Again, hypothetically, it would have also been the most profound and meaningful emotional experience I've ever had. Yes, you can say it's not "real" because it's chemically induced. However, that raises an arresting thought: that all of your emotional experiences are chemically induced. So who are we to say what experience is real and what is not? Likewise, my whole spiritual trip has me questioning all of reality and everything that I thought was solid fact.
Funny enough, my experience seems to have reset my brain. My lingering feelings for the Alberta girl? Totally gone after my trip. Instead it seems those feelings switched targets towards my sitter for the day. They have largely subsided in the ensuing couple of days.
The spiritual journey was crazy. I saw my sitter as God and wanted to worship her as such. I felt levels of emotion I didn't know were possible. I cycled between laughter, crying, awe, and every other emotion constantly. Objects in paintings were moving. I felt like I could travel to other universes and control time at will. It was scary in the best way, and I don't regret it one bit.
To show you how uncool I am, I thought you were talking about a babysitter.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:58 pmFunny enough, my experience seems to have reset my brain. My lingering feelings for the Alberta girl? Totally gone after my trip. Instead it seems those feelings switched targets towards my sitter for the day. They have largely subsided in the ensuing couple of days.
The spiritual journey was crazy. I saw my sitter as God and wanted to worship her as such.
I'm even uncooler than you Xan. I still have no idea what a sitter is in the context Smith1776 used.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:01 amTo show you how uncool I am, I thought you were talking about a babysitter.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:58 pmFunny enough, my experience seems to have reset my brain. My lingering feelings for the Alberta girl? Totally gone after my trip. Instead it seems those feelings switched targets towards my sitter for the day. They have largely subsided in the ensuing couple of days.
The spiritual journey was crazy. I saw my sitter as God and wanted to worship her as such.
?interactive processing wrote: i am going to guess that a sitter is a off shoot of the 1960 "set and setting" guidelines for safe tripping. and would be a sober person that keeps an eye on travelers during there journey...
I looked it up on Wikipedia. The first entry is "babysitter", and the one after that is "trip sitter", which seems to be what applies here.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:09 amI'm even uncooler than you Xan. I still have no idea what a sitter is in the context Smith1776 used.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:01 amTo show you how uncool I am, I thought you were talking about a babysitter.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:58 pmFunny enough, my experience seems to have reset my brain. My lingering feelings for the Alberta girl? Totally gone after my trip. Instead it seems those feelings switched targets towards my sitter for the day. They have largely subsided in the ensuing couple of days.
The spiritual journey was crazy. I saw my sitter as God and wanted to worship her as such.
Correct!
Hehe. No worries and no offence taken. I am employed by a Canadian founded Megacorp. and also in school. Your concern is more taken as good faith and caring than anything else.WiseOne wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:30 am Smith, not trying to be judgmental but when I hear a long list of "spiritual journey" activities, it makes me translate this as "not gainfully employed or otherwise engaged in an occupation." Is that the case?
If my guess is right, I suspect you will need to add these things to your todo list. Employment gaps are serious issues for a CV and will follow you for your entire working life. If you can't find employment at least document that you're job searching or taking classes or whatever. Or maybe a volunteer gig will help.
If all this is happening in your spare time, my apologies.
Yes! That happened to a friend of mine in college. He went to his ophthalmologist and noted that his eyesight seemed to improve and that his total number of floaters decreased.Hal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:20 am To add to that, Prescription Cannabis is legal in some states here as an alternative to opioids. The fellow I know who is on it, reported much better eyesight and the GP confirmed that is a side-effect. Also made his mind much calmer and sharper, but not sure if I would want to get a crushed spine just to be able to use it legally
Happy everything is working out for you now Smithy.
Smith, you said no drugs involved with your trip, right? So, you were drunk? Wine? My apologies for prying; hope I am not too inquisitive. Just trying to understand what you are describing.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:09 amYes! That happened to a friend of mine in college. He went to his ophthalmologist and noted that his eyesight seemed to improve and that his total number of floaters decreased.Hal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:20 am To add to that, Prescription Cannabis is legal in some states here as an alternative to opioids. The fellow I know who is on it, reported much better eyesight and the GP confirmed that is a side-effect. Also made his mind much calmer and sharper, but not sure if I would want to get a crushed spine just to be able to use it legally
Happy everything is working out for you now Smithy.
This new thing I'm doing where I'm going out and trying new experiences has definitely added new texture and depth to life. Thank you for getting me into wine!
What’s a boat? What’s gold? What’s a Smithers? What’s a trip on the wild side? I’m getting a better understanding of Schroedinger’s cat given this discussion. 
Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:40 pm Smith, you said no drugs involved with your trip, right? So, you were drunk? Wine? My apologies for prying; hope I am not too inquisitive. Just trying to understand what you are describing.
