Next up on the planned crisis list

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Post by ppnewbie » Mon May 16, 2022 2:25 am

Mass Shootings seem to be capturing attention. I believe there is something like an average of 10 mass shootings per week in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/10990085 ... lly-number

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting
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Post by dualstow » Mon May 16, 2022 7:04 am

Well we had at least 4 over the weekend. Definitely got my attention.
The Buffalo shooter wasn’t far from my hometown.
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Post by Mountaineer » Mon May 16, 2022 9:36 am

Re. mass shootings, border crisis, etc.

I think we are reaping the results of replacing the Judeo-Christian ethics upon which our country was founded with secular humanism ethics.

Judeo-Christian: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength and your neighbor as yourself; e.g. a life guided by God's will for us as exemplified by the 10 Commandments.

Secular humanism: Man is his own god. Worship and love self above all; to hell with everyone who does not agree with me or support me; a shift from concern for others to concern for self.

Look at some of the examples: selective law enforcment, the whole LGBTQ+++++++ agenda *, ever worsening corrupt politicians, over 60,000,000 unborn humans killed and the act celebrated as liberating, and the list goes on, and on, and on. What once was deemed evil is now celebrated as good.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxqVHYGBywc

That said, I am filled with hope for my future; I KNOW where I'm going.

YMMV
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Post by Tortoise » Mon May 16, 2022 12:44 pm

ppnewbie wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 2:25 am
Mass Shootings seem to be capturing attention. I believe there is something like an average of 10 mass shootings per week in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/10990085 ... lly-number

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting
Back in less propagandistic times, most of the shootings on that list wouldn't have been labeled "mass shootings". They would instead have been more accurately labeled "gang-related shootings" or "drive-by shootings".

It's possible that non-gang-related "mass shootings" have increased in recent years, but when people misleadingly lump them together with gang-related shootings, it removes important context and makes it harder to understand what's really happening.
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Post by ppnewbie » Mon May 16, 2022 12:52 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 12:44 pm
ppnewbie wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 2:25 am
Mass Shootings seem to be capturing attention. I believe there is something like an average of 10 mass shootings per week in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/10990085 ... lly-number

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting
Back in less propagandistic times, most of the shootings on that list wouldn't have been labeled "mass shootings". They would instead have been more accurately labeled "gang-related shootings" or "drive-by shootings".

It's possible that non-gang-related "mass shootings" have increased in recent years, but when people misleadingly lump them together with gang-related shootings, it removes important context and makes it harder to understand what's really happening.
I thought about that. But ultimately I chose to view it as signal as opposed to noise. I think the two categories could have a significant correlation.
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Post by ppnewbie » Tue May 17, 2022 5:10 pm

Here is a good link to get a broader perspective on the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
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Post by Mountaineer » Wed May 18, 2022 5:21 am

ppnewbie wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:10 pm
Here is a good link to get a broader perspective on the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo
Very interesting data and presentation. Thanks.
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Post by Kbg » Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am

Good article in the WSJ today on the guy's online journal. (Paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-sh ... lead_pos11

Nothing excuses what he did, but I think one can feel pity for him in watching/reading about his decent. There were a couple of lines that were flat out painful to read.

“I only really turned racist when 4chan started giving me facts that they were intellectually and emotionally inferior,”

“If I could go back maybe I’d tell myself to get the f— off 4chan…and get an actual life,”
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Post by Xan » Wed May 18, 2022 10:03 am

Kbg wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am
Good article in the WSJ today on the guy's online journal. (Paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-sh ... lead_pos11

Nothing excuses what he did, but I think one can feel pity for him in watching/reading about his decent. There were a couple of lines that were flat out painful to read.

“I only really turned racist when 4chan started giving me facts that they were intellectually and emotionally inferior,”

“If I could go back maybe I’d tell myself to get the f— off 4chan…and get an actual life,”
I'm curious what seems to have caused his change of heart now?
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Post by joypog » Wed May 18, 2022 10:18 am

Kbg wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am
Nothing excuses what he did, but I think one can feel pity for him in watching/reading about his decent. There were a couple of lines that were flat out painful to read.
One of the worst things about modern American discourse is the inability of both sides to feel pity while acknowledging an indiviual's moral culpability. His descent is sad....but the entertainment media duopoly wants us feel structural pity for the miscreants on their side and utter revulsion for the evildoers on the other side.

I'm not religious but as a bleeding heart liberal, I look at all extremists and think "there but for the grace of god..."
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Post by Kbg » Wed May 18, 2022 2:33 pm

Xan wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 10:03 am
Kbg wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am
Good article in the WSJ today on the guy's online journal. (Paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-sh ... lead_pos11

Nothing excuses what he did, but I think one can feel pity for him in watching/reading about his decent. There were a couple of lines that were flat out painful to read.

“I only really turned racist when 4chan started giving me facts that they were intellectually and emotionally inferior,”

“If I could go back maybe I’d tell myself to get the f— off 4chan…and get an actual life,”
I'm curious what seems to have caused his change of heart now?
These were posted before he started shooting...the one thing clear is he was very cognizant of the road he was walking down. In that light, other than sorrow for a wasted life justice should be served on behalf of his victims and the victims are where the focus of sorrow and pity should be (and their families).
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Post by vnatale » Wed May 18, 2022 9:44 pm

Kbg wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:51 am

Good article in the WSJ today on the guy's online journal. (Paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-sh ... lead_pos11



Looks like they don't have the paywall for this one, which is unlike just about every Wall Street Journal article I attempt to access.

I am about to read it now. Thanks.
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Post by ppnewbie » Sat May 21, 2022 1:07 am

It’s baby formula shortages turn in the spot light. I wonder what humans did for the approximate 300,000 years before it was invented.
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Post by dualstow » Sat May 21, 2022 4:55 am

ppnewbie wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 1:07 am
It’s baby formula shortages turn in the spot light. I wonder what humans did for the approximate 300,000 years before it was invented.
Well we had fewer pregnant men back then.
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Post by Mountaineer » Sat May 21, 2022 5:47 am

dualstow wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:55 am
ppnewbie wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 1:07 am
It’s baby formula shortages turn in the spot light. I wonder what humans did for the approximate 300,000 years before it was invented.
Well we had fewer pregnant men back then.
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Post by pugchief » Sat May 21, 2022 6:41 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 5:47 am
dualstow wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:55 am
ppnewbie wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 1:07 am
It’s baby formula shortages turn in the spot light. I wonder what humans did for the approximate 300,000 years before it was invented.
Well we had fewer pregnant men back then.
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Indeed.
True story: My son could not tolerate Enfamil or whatever was popular back then, so the pediatrician suggested that we use warm Carnation evaporated milk (maybe we added something; I don't remember). He tolerated that much better, and it saved us a fortune as well.
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Post by joypog » Sat May 21, 2022 9:31 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 5:47 am
dualstow wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:55 am
ppnewbie wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 1:07 am
It’s baby formula shortages turn in the spot light. I wonder what humans did for the approximate 300,000 years before it was invented.
Well we had fewer pregnant men back then.
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No, that's some sexist bullshit. Should be "pregnant gender non-conforming birthing-people".

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Post by dualstow » Sat May 21, 2022 10:25 am

You are correct! Good catch O0
I saw something the other day that was very Not the Onion. Hearing voices from schizophrenia is now something like “non-consensus realities.” I’m all for not stigmatizing mental health issues, but sheesh. What a joke.
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Post by joypog » Sat May 21, 2022 12:14 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 10:25 am
You are correct! Good catch O0
I saw something the other day that was very Not the Onion. Hearing voices from schizophrenia is now something like “non-consensus realities.” I’m all for not stigmatizing mental health issues, but sheesh. What a joke.
OMG...I can't describe how jealous I am of the genius who came up with that.

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Post by ppnewbie » Thu May 26, 2022 1:22 pm

Monkeypox is worth a few million "impressions". The click machine must be fed.
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Post by Mountaineer » Thu May 26, 2022 1:34 pm

ppnewbie wrote:
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Monkeypox is worth a few million "impressions". The click machine must be fed.
;D ;D ;D Had my "impression" about 7 decades ago along with a few million other trusting souls. I fed the machine a long time ago; that was back when men were men, women were women, and there weren't many parasites. I think I've had almost every vaccine there is except yellow fever - and so far I've never had the disease the vaccine was intended to prevent or minimize. ;)

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And his reply was, “Hard times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create difficult times. Many will not understand it, but you have to raise warriors, not parasites.”
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Post by vnatale » Thu May 26, 2022 3:27 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 1:34 pm

ppnewbie wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 1:22 pm

Monkeypox is worth a few million "impressions". The click machine must be fed.


;D ;D ;D Had my "impression" about 7 decades ago along with a few million other trusting souls. I fed the machine a long time ago; that was back when men were men, women were women, and there weren't many parasites. I think I've had almost every vaccine there is except yellow fever - and so far I've never had the disease the vaccine was intended to prevent or minimize. ;)

Camels on the Horizon:
The founder of Dubai, Sheik Rashid, was supposedly asked about the future of his country, and he replied, "My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I ride a Mercedes, my son rides a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to ride a Land Rover…but my great-grandson is going to have to ride a camel again.“ Why is that, he was asked?

And his reply was, “Hard times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create difficult times. Many will not understand it, but you have to raise warriors, not parasites.”


"There is an old saying, “shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations.” which means that the older generation started with nothing, worked hard and amassed wealth, and by the time their great-grandchildren are in charge, the family is back where they started, with nothing."
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Post by jalanlong » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:46 pm

ppnewbie wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 2:25 am
Mass Shootings seem to be capturing attention. I believe there is something like an average of 10 mass shootings per week in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/10990085 ... lly-number

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting
Well the problem with that “statistic” is that there is no accepted definition of the term “mass shooting.”
The news, police and NRA can all use their own definition.

The NPR article above uses a VERY liberal interpretation of mass shooting including domestic disputes, family squabbles, boyfriend/girlfriend spats and gang activities. You can argue as to whether those should be included or not but they are not what people first think of when they hear the term mass shooting. And the solution to these type of incidents (if there is any) may be quite different than the solution to random shooters walking into a shopping center or school.

The type of mass shooting where a random gunman goes into a shopping center, school, or restaurant and guns down random people is extremely rare. But that doesn’t get people to watch the news or vote for politicians who can fix it.
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Post by ppnewbie » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:06 am

What I find is strange is how much of a mountain was made out of this. They had some parties while the country was locked down and he hired a person that was not vetted properly. Another dumb mistake. No funneling weapons to rogue states, war crimes, cash transfers, bribes. Just some parties and a hiring mistake.
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