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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Post by technovelist » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:47 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:48 am
technovelist wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:37 pm
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:08 pm
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Day 14 here.....and for the record....I last had any alcohol in December 1974 (45 years ago) and, also, no other recreational drugs since.

Vinny
So that's your problem.
Makes sense to me.
Obviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.

Vinny
You might find that your current fixed ideas aren't really that accurate.
You need to further elaborate on your above sentence as currently it has no meaning to me.

Vinny
You might find that some recreational drugs do in fact have the mind-expanding properties that they are said to have.
I know that many very creative people have taken advantage of those properties even before it was socially acceptable.
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:52 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:56 am
Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:10 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:35 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:45 am
Day 14 here.....and for the record....I last had any alcohol in December 1974 (45 years ago) and, also, no other recreational drugs since.

Vinny
So that's your problem.
Makes sense to me.
;D ;D ;D. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
I know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:

"We do not believe in the use of alcohol" (and, now updated to, "or, the use of any recreational drug")


Vinny
I know that some denominations promote that, however, there is no Biblical basis for it (I think the Bible focuses on not getting drunk; i.e. maintain self-control). "No alcohol" is just another man-made, not God-made, rule. That is similar to the issue of the Pharisees turning the 10 Commandments (God-made) into 613 man-made rules; in my opinion so they could feel good about faith in works righteousness as a means to get to heaven vs. faith in God and His promises.

Reminds me of an old joke: The worst thing that can happen to a Baptist is to run into a fellow pew sitter in the liquor store. :)
You are correct in all you say. However, reading that in the statement of beliefs of that church was one my five reasons why I decided to quit. One of the others is that I no longer wanted to be a part of in any way supporting an industry that has proven to be so destructive to the lives of so many individuals and their families. Even so many innocents and their families being affected by the actions of drunk driving.

I know you also know that the Bible states to not do some things you can handle because it can cause the weaker to be tempted and to not handle it well.

You and everyone else may well responsibly be handling all your alcohol consumption. But you are keeping an industry alive that provides no health benefits and, as stated earlier, results in much destruction in our society.

But, in the end, I've made my decisions that fits my conscience and you and everyone else in this country is free to make those you fit into yours. I'm sure I do certain things you have chosen not to do.

Vinny
Thank you for your response. If you don't mind my asking, what were the other 3 reasons? And, what if anything, would cause you to reconsider? No need to respond if those are inappropriate questions for you. I'm not at all asking to judge, just to better understand the things that turned you off of Christianity (presumed since you paraphrased some Christian Scripture quite well).
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

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I no longer wanted to be a part of in any way supporting an industry that has proven to be so destructive to the lives of so many individuals and their families.
You could probably say the same about the sugar industry.
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

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dualstow wrote:
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I no longer wanted to be a part of in any way supporting an industry that has proven to be so destructive to the lives of so many individuals and their families.
You could probably say the same about the sugar industry.
For certain! I am almost a total non-participant in that industry also. But not for that reason. Strictly for my own persona health reasons.

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Post by Smith1776 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 am

I am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!

By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
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Post by Mountaineer » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:02 am

Greetings and salutations on this wet Sunday morning. Hope everyone is coping. Here is something to brighten your day. Be sure to express the appropriate reverence. :)
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Post by technovelist » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:41 am

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I am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!

By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
I'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.

But of course there really isn't any such thing as an infinite series. That is just an abstraction that can be useful sometimes and wildly off-target other times.
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Post by Smith1776 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:53 am

technovelist wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:41 am
Smith1776 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 am
I am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!

By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
I'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.

But of course there really isn't any such thing as an infinite series. That is just an abstraction that can be useful sometimes and wildly off-target other times.
It is unbelievable but true. I've been studying this section for a good while and so much of it still doesn't make sense to me.

https://medium.com/cantors-paradise/the ... cc23dea793

https://youtu.be/w-I6XTVZXww

The mathematician in the youtube video literally does the proof, and I still don't have my mind quite wrapped around it.
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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Post by technovelist » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:07 am

Smith1776 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:53 am
technovelist wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:41 am
Smith1776 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 am
I am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!

By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
I'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.

But of course there really isn't any such thing as an infinite series. That is just an abstraction that can be useful sometimes and wildly off-target other times.
It is unbelievable but true. I've been studying this section for a good while and so much of it still doesn't make sense to me.

https://medium.com/cantors-paradise/the ... cc23dea793

https://youtu.be/w-I6XTVZXww

The mathematician in the youtube video literally does the proof, and I still don't have my mind quite wrapped around it.
No it isn't true. It's an excellent example of why you can't treat "infinite series" like actual things.
Again, they are abstractions, not reality.

Here's a simpler example which is equally valid:

Assume that we have two variables a and b, and that: a = b

Multiply both sides by a to get: a2 = ab

Subtract b2 from both sides to get: a2 - b2 = ab - b2

This is the tricky part: Factor the left side (using FOIL from algebra) to get (a + b)(a - b) and factor out b from the right side to get b(a - b). If you're not sure how FOIL or factoring works, don't worry—you can check that this all works by multiplying everything out to see that it matches. The end result is that our equation has become: (a + b)(a - b) = b(a - b)

Since (a - b) appears on both sides, we can cancel it to get: a + b = b

Since a = b (that's the assumption we started with), we can substitute b in for a to get: b + b = b

Combining the two terms on the left gives us: 2b = b

Since b appears on both sides, we can divide through by b to get: 2 = 1
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Post by pugchief » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:13 am

The whole thing is based on believing that 1-1+1-1+1-1+1-1......infinity = 1/2. Does it? Taking an average because you don't know when it ends seems suspect.
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Post by technovelist » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:17 am

pugchief wrote:
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The whole thing is based on believing that 1-1+1-1+1-1+1-1......infinity = 1/2. Does it? Taking an average because you don't know when it ends seems suspect.
That series doesn't converge, so it has no sum.
Infinite series have their place in analysis but you have to treat them with great caution because they are abstractions that aren't anchored in reality.
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Post by Mountaineer » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:14 am

I'm more into Schrödinger's cat. Should I have posted this in the Kat thread? ???
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