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55%?

Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:48 am

I am listening to Jackie Gingrich Cushman speaking to Republicans.

She just stated that 55% do not have friends of the other party.

I have friends who voted for Hillary and those who voted for Trump. I live in an area, though, where many have no friends who voted for Trump.

Are you part of the 55%? Or, do you have friends who voted for the opposite party to you?

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Re: 55%?

Post by drumminj » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:54 am

I live in Seattle. If I didn't have friends who didn't vote for Trump, I'd have no friends.

Then again, I've dealt with hostile work environments at multiple companies as a "closet" Trump supporter/voter. And many folks who are so dismissive and condescending of those who hold different political views that I wouldn't want to be friends with them regardless...
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Re: 55%?

Post by pugchief » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:48 am
I am listening to Jackie Gingrich Cushman speaking to Republicans.

She just stated that 55% do not have friends of the other party.

I have friends who voted for Hillary and those who voted for Trump. I live in an area, though, where many have no friends who voted for Trump.

Are you part of the 55%? Or, do you have friends who voted for the opposite party to you?

Vinny
Surely you jest. Most Republicans I know think that the Democrats have lost their minds, but still have no problem being friends with them. By contrast, most Democrats (and the farther left their views, the more this is true) will delete your contact info from their phone and un-friend you on Facebook if they find out you even slightly disagree with their left-wing views.
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Re: 55%?

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 am

pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am
vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:48 am
I am listening to Jackie Gingrich Cushman speaking to Republicans.

She just stated that 55% do not have friends of the other party.

I have friends who voted for Hillary and those who voted for Trump. I live in an area, though, where many have no friends who voted for Trump.

Are you part of the 55%? Or, do you have friends who voted for the opposite party to you?

Vinny
Surely you jest. Most Republicans I know think that the Democrats have lost their minds, but still have no problem being friends with them. By contrast, most Democrats (and the farther left their views, the more this is true) will delete your contact info from their phone and un-friend you on Facebook if they find out you even slightly disagree with their left-wing views.
Amen to that. My wife has a socially/morally/politically liberal friend of almost 50 years who did not speak to her (and other conservative friends) after the 2016 election for two years because she was so angry that Trump won. Talk about worshiping at the altar of self - TDS supreme! They are once again in contact; the s/m/p liberal friend came to the conclusion that she had behaved irrationally and their friendship was more valuable than whomever occupied the white house.
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Re: 55%?

Post by pugchief » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:40 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:31 am
pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am
vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:48 am
I am listening to Jackie Gingrich Cushman speaking to Republicans.

She just stated that 55% do not have friends of the other party.

I have friends who voted for Hillary and those who voted for Trump. I live in an area, though, where many have no friends who voted for Trump.

Are you part of the 55%? Or, do you have friends who voted for the opposite party to you?

Vinny
Surely you jest. Most Republicans I know think that the Democrats have lost their minds, but still have no problem being friends with them. By contrast, most Democrats (and the farther left their views, the more this is true) will delete your contact info from their phone and un-friend you on Facebook if they find out you even slightly disagree with their left-wing views.
Amen to that. My wife has a socially/morally/politically liberal friend of almost 50 years who did not speak to her (and other conservative friends) after the 2016 election for two years because she was so angry that Trump won. Talk about worshiping at the altar of self - TDS supreme! They are once again in contact; the s/m/p liberal friend came to the conclusion that she had behaved irrationally and their friendship was more valuable than whomever occupied the white house.
I'm happy for your wife that she got her friend back, Mountaineer. I do believe this is the exception rather than the rule, though (that the liberal came to her senses).
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Re: 55%?

Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:48 pm

pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:21 am
vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:48 am
I am listening to Jackie Gingrich Cushman speaking to Republicans.

She just stated that 55% do not have friends of the other party.

I have friends who voted for Hillary and those who voted for Trump. I live in an area, though, where many have no friends who voted for Trump.

Are you part of the 55%? Or, do you have friends who voted for the opposite party to you?

Vinny
Surely you jest. Most Republicans I know think that the Democrats have lost their minds, but still have no problem being friends with them. By contrast, most Democrats (and the farther left their views, the more this is true) will delete your contact info from their phone and un-friend you on Facebook if they find out you even slightly disagree with their left-wing views.
Was not. I wrote the above while I was listening. After I wrote what I wrote she later said it again except this time it seemed like she was saying that it was 55% of Republicans do not have friends of the opposite party. Which made more sense given that she was speaking to an all Republican audience and the theme of her talk was how to be more effective with the other party.

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Post by pugchief » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:53 pm

The only way I could see that being accurate is maybe in a rural town in a red state where there simply aren't enough Dems for anyone to shun as friends.

Here in the burbs of a blue state, there are plenty of both Rs and Ds and I stick by my original statement.
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Re: 55%?

Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:02 pm

pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:53 pm
The only way I could see that being accurate is maybe in a rural town in a red state where there simply aren't enough Dems for anyone to shun as friends.

Here in the burbs of a blue state, there are plenty of both Rs and Ds and I stick by my original statement.

Within a few seconds of an internet search I find this:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/10/18 ... ity-based/

"Today, 55% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats say they have few or no friends in the opposite party."

This was her writing. Today I thought I twice heard her say "no".

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Re: 55%?

Post by drumminj » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:02 pm
"Today, 55% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats say they have few or no friends in the opposite party."
Note the terminology... "in the opposite party".

It's not a sports team, nor a life-long, exclusive commitment. Politicians may be members of a party, but to try to cast voters in such a single-dimension is a disservice, IMO, and part of the problem (people thinking about it that way, rather than about ideas/ideals)
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Re: 55%?

Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

drumminj wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm
vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:02 pm
"Today, 55% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats say they have few or no friends in the opposite party."
Note the terminology... "in the opposite party".

It's not a sports team, nor a life-long, exclusive commitment. Politicians may be members of a party, but to try to cast voters in such a single-dimension is a disservice, IMO, and part of the problem (people thinking about it that way, rather than about ideas/ideals)
She was addressing Republicans in the context of Republican voters, not Republican politicians.

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Re: 55%?

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:23 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:02 pm
pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:53 pm
The only way I could see that being accurate is maybe in a rural town in a red state where there simply aren't enough Dems for anyone to shun as friends.

Here in the burbs of a blue state, there are plenty of both Rs and Ds and I stick by my original statement.

Within a few seconds of an internet search I find this:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/10/18 ... ity-based/

"Today, 55% of Republicans and 64% of Democrats say they have few or no friends in the opposite party."

This was her writing. Today I thought I twice heard her say "no".

Vinny
If those stats are correct, kind of points out who is more tolerant in action rather than in virtue signaling. ;)
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Re: 55%?

Post by drumminj » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:56 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm
She was addressing Republicans in the context of Republican voters, not Republican politicians.
That is what I understood and was responding to. I think it's a disservice to our country to label individual voters as being "in" a party, vs voting for one (or voting for a candidate who's a member of one).

It makes it like religion -- you can only be one, and there's "us" and "them".
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