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My Democtratic candidate grades!
I put on C-Span this morning and they had on the Democratic candidates speaking in Iowa.
My grades (without comment) for each I heard in order:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - B
Elizabeth Warren - C-
Kamala Harris - C-
Tom Steyer - A
Vinny
My grades (without comment) for each I heard in order:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - B
Elizabeth Warren - C-
Kamala Harris - C-
Tom Steyer - A
Vinny
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If an avowed socialist becomes the Dem nominee that would certainly be a watershed moment in American politics, wouldn't it? And if he actually won the presidency? OMFG - my how times have changed.MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:05 pm Since Steyer and Yang have virtually zero chance of becoming the eventual nominee, what cognitive dissonance will get you to vote for Biden or Warren considering the grade you have given them? The only other one with a prayer is Sanders, and I believe you said in another thread that you dislike him as well.
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Since Trump also gets an F (as does Bernie and Biden) I have stated that if it comes down two either Bernie or Biden against Trump, I'm voting for the best third party candidate.MangoMan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:05 pm Since Steyer and Yang have virtually zero chance of becoming the eventual nominee, what cognitive dissonance will get you to vote for Biden or Warren considering the grade you have given them? The only other one with a prayer is Sanders, and I believe you said in another thread that you dislike him as well.
I'd vote for either Warren or Harris if they were against Trump. But my other three A's are Klobuchar, Gabbard, and Buttigieg. So, there is still hope one of them prevails over both Warren and Harris.
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Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.
And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
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Very likeable fellow.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.
And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
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Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
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I take it you give Obama a D or an F?Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
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And, is it me, or does it seem that he spend more time on what he can provide rather than holding himself up as who you have to vote for so as to no longer have Trump?Cortopassi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.
And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
Seemed like that was all I heard Biden talk about today. Why we had to vote for him so as to end the Reign of Trump.
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I know your question was not directed at me. But I give Obama an A but I never totally got the articulate part. Maybe in comparison to his predecessor? But I oftentimes heard in his speech patterns (and, I am referring to when he was NOT giving a prepared speech) a lot of verbal tics - the "Ums".dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pmI take it you give Obama a D or an F?Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
That always told me that he was being arrogant in believing that he was so smart that he did not have to prepare and those verbal tics were giving him time to quickly think of an answer to a question he was unprepared to answer.
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My grades:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F
Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.
The rest of the clowns - F
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I agree with your analysis of Obama's articulateness (i.e. massive ego) thus I'd rate him a D on articulateness. However, I give Obama a solid F on likeable. He is the only person in my 7 plus decades that actually made me sick at my stomach to watch or listen to. I can't really explain it but he evoked an absolutely visceral body response. My personal response to Obama helps me better understand those who have TDS.vnatale wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 pmI know your question was not directed at me. But I give Obama an A but I never totally got the articulate part. Maybe in comparison to his predecessor? But I oftentimes heard in his speech patterns (and, I am referring to when he was NOT giving a prepared speech) a lot of verbal tics - the "Ums".dualstow wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pmI take it you give Obama a D or an F?Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
That always told me that he was being arrogant in believing that he was so smart that he did not have to prepare and those verbal tics were giving him time to quickly think of an answer to a question he was unprepared to answer.
Vinny
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WHY was I NOT surprised with ANY of your grades??!!!Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:44 pmMy grades:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F
Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.
The rest of the clowns - F
Now how about this? Can you give your grades for any of the Republican candidates during the 2016 primaries? Curious to see how they rank with you and how they might differ. At this point, I could not guess as all I know is your opinion of Trump.
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I actually voted for Hillary rather than him in the primary. But from his election to the end I was quite happy with him. Upon his becoming president my personal revelation was that he was now just hired to be our president and, though I was sure to disagree with some things he would do in the future, I was content that he had that position as I believe he was well equipped to handle this job. All the opposite ways I felt with his predecessor.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:39 pmI agree with your analysis of Obama's articulateness (i.e. massive ego) thus I'd rate him a D on articulateness. However, I give Obama a solid F on likeable. He is the only person in my 7 plus decades that actually made me sick at my stomach to watch or listen to. I can't really explain it but he evoked an absolutely visceral body response. My personal response to Obama helps me better understand those who have TDS.vnatale wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 pmI know your question was not directed at me. But I give Obama an A but I never totally got the articulate part. Maybe in comparison to his predecessor? But I oftentimes heard in his speech patterns (and, I am referring to when he was NOT giving a prepared speech) a lot of verbal tics - the "Ums".
That always told me that he was being arrogant in believing that he was so smart that he did not have to prepare and those verbal tics were giving him time to quickly think of an answer to a question he was unprepared to answer.
Vinny
Speaking of revelation. I noticed that you had a Book of Revelation reference 22:6-21. I assume that had no bearing to your Obama comments and something you always have and which I just first noticed? I read its verses twice and I did not see how it paralleled what you wrote above regarding Obama above.
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That’s Mountaineer’s sig line. Remember you asked how my old posts could have current news at the bottom and without edits? And I pointed you to the signature in control panel. That Revelations reference will be at the end of all of M’s posts unless he changes it.
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Okay I understand that is Mountaineer's FIXED signature line. But how do you have a dynamic one? You did answer me but it seemed like somehow yours must be connected to some URL and not just static words?dualstow wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:52 pm That’s Mountaineer’s sig line. Remember you asked how my old posts could have current news at the bottom and without edits? And I pointed you to the signature in control panel. That Revelations reference will be at the end of all of M’s posts unless he changes it.
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Apparently Libertarian666 and I are twins separated at birth.
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That's not terribly surprising considering your username and avatar.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:19 pm Apparently Libertarian666 and I are twins separated at birth.
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Well at least you gave Rick Santorum an F.
Not linked. I just change mine more often than most people do.
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I think I can see the similarities between the ones in your groupings. The only one that had any appeal for me was Rand Paul. And, part of that may have been because of his father, who I had no criticism of other than him choosing to be a Republican.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:16 pmSure, here are my ratings for the ones who were in at least two debates:vnatale wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:24 pmWHY was I NOT surprised with ANY of your grades??!!!Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:44 pm
My grades:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F
Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.
The rest of the clowns - F
Now how about this? Can you give your grades for any of the Republican candidates during the 2016 primaries? Curious to see how they rank with you and how they might differ. At this point, I could not guess as all I know is your opinion of Trump.
Vinny
Rand Paul: A-
Trump: B
Ted Cruz: B-
Ben Carson: C
Mike Huckabee: C
John Kasich: D
Marco Rubio: D
Carly Fiorina: D
Jeb Bush: F
Chris Christie: F
Rick Santorum: F
Jim Gilmore: who?
I generally have never liked Santorum. However, he was on C-Span a few weeks ago talking about paid family leave for the country (As of October 1st we are just having to pay for Family / Medical leave with it becoming available for use on January 1, 2021). I listened to all he had to say. And, I was astounded that I agreed with just about all he had to say. He was pushing for a targeted approach rather than the typical "free college for everyone" approach. I was so impressed that I sent him a Tweet saying that although I'd always been opposed to all he had to say in the past he had really thrown out a ton of gems of wisdom during the 45 minute discussion on C-Span.
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Now I finally understand. It changed so often I just assumed it was somehow a dynamic signature. But it also changes all your signatures from all prior posts? That is somewhat unusual.
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Yup, only one signature at a time. It’s a sitewide change. Same deal with all forums, as far as I know.
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These grades are way too high.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:44 pmMy grades:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F
Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.
The rest of the clowns - F
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Don wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:25 amThese grades are way too high.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:44 pmMy grades:
Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F
Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.
The rest of the clowns - F
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{from the wealth tax thread}
Just as Bernie seemed fringe during the 2016 election but is now par for the course, septuagenarians seemed old. Now they're the median. Of course, we'd better pay attention to the vice president selection.