shekels wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:25 am
moda0306 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:31 am
stuper1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:41 am
Yup, and remember that Trump just fires people. Obama was more likely to have people offed with a drone strike -- judge, jury, and executioner.
Trump expanded drone strikes and the Afghan war and vetoed ending the Yemen war.
You’re really a great example of how a fucking moron could get elected President.
Do you have Hard Data, and not just someones Opinion/Guess on drone strike/ death toll?
Drone strike Casualty Reports have been cancelled.
Also when Trump vetoed ending the Yemen war, why did not CONgress succeed in overturning the Veto?
https://www.justsecurity.org/63855/gett ... n-succeed/
Another question, is how many American Troops are stationed or have Died in Yemen during Yemen's Civil War?
moda has posted this link in an earlier thread:
"During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes." It doesn't say where she got those numbers from. Several stories about drone strikes reference a
Daily Beast article, which states that it uses numbers provided by CENTCOM and the Bureau Of Investigative Journalism. It looks like you can comb through the press releases on
www.centcom.mil and add up how many drone strikes they acknowledge, but I don't feel like doing it.
On the Bureau Of Investigative Journalism's drone strike site, setting the parameters to # of strikes since Jan 2017 gives these results:
6 Pakistan
166 Yemen (these were relatively high at the beginning of Trump's term, but haven't been above 15 a month since April 2017)
98 Somolia
4582 Afghanistan
4852 Total
Their numbers look suspect though. For instance, here is one example of a strike:
An airstrike in Badakhshan killed 16 Taliban fighters, Khaama Press reported - though it was not clear whether US or Afghan forces were responsible.
The Ministry of Defence reportedly said that security forces conducted the strike in the Wardoj district.
While the report says that the security forces conducted the strike, we cannot definitely rule out US involvement as the security forces often call in US air support.
Khaama Press did explicitly give a date for this strike so we have recorded it as the date that it was reported on.
Type of strike: Possible US strike
Location: Wardoj district, Badakhshan province
Reference: Khaama Press
They're very transparent, which I am grateful for because it helps me determine that this isn't something I can trust (or, not without going over each incident in detail).
shekels wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:25 amNow the Afghan war has been going on for 18 YEARS... Do you just turn out the lights and go home?
That's kind of what we've been doing. When I was in Afghanistan, we briefly conducted operations out of a semi-abandonded outpost. It still had all the generators and huts and stuff like that, but nobody was using it. We were just paying some dudes to watch it. It was nerve-wracking as fuck in there because we had no idea if the guards had let insurgents emplace booby traps or infiltration points or map it out for indirect fire or what have you. When we were done I can't remember if we turned it over to the ANA or if we airlifted all the recoverable shit back to the big FOB. Also, I believe every base/outpost I was on except Bagram has been closed down or turned over to the ANA, which is as close to turning out the lights and leaving as you'd think.
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.