Will Trump be Re-elected?

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Will Trump be Re-elected?

Trump is more effective than people are willing to admit [ala Scott Adams] and will be re-elected.
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Hillary will run again in 2020, and thus Trump will beat her again.
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Trump will cause the GOP to lose one or both houses of congress in the mid-term elections.
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The Dems in congress will be so insufferable, Trumps wins by a small margin despite them.
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Trump will choose not to run for re-election, since he never really wanted the job anyway.
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Trump is a disaster and will lose by a landslide.
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Trump will not only lose, but will lose to a candidate so far to the left that people will wish he'd stayed.
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Other, please elaborate.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by shekels » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:31 am

dualstow wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 am
Did they move somewhere, btw?
A more important question: Is there some conservative platform out there that is kind of mellow?
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It is open to debate on how Mellow it is, but on the whole for the different regions of people, it is pretty Tame.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by dualstow » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:34 am

Ah, thank you. The last time I looked, I couldn't view it at all. Didn't know it was temporary.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by Cortopassi » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:02 pm

I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:02 pm
I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

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Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:20 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:02 pm
I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

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Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.
Then he’s the luckiest man in the world.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:02 pm

I get why governments want negative interest rates, but I don't like them. Disagree with Trumpus Magnus here.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 pm

He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy. Stating what I assume everybody on this forum knows, US sovereign debt is not negotiable. It's a cast iron contract. If any of the things he is discussing were attempted it would spark a global financial crisis that would make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The man is a functionally illiterate knave.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:52 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 pm
He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy.
I think by "start to refinance our debt. . . while at the same time substantially lengthening the term" he's saying that we'd start issuing negative interest rate Treasuries at longer maturities than 30 years. Not that once the Fed lowers interest rates below 0% we would call in every (non-callable) Treasury and tell people to buy them and pay us for the privilege.

What a sickening thought. I wouldn't be paying anyone to lend them money, that's for sure.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by dualstow » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:53 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:02 pm
Trumpus Magnus
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by stuper1 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:33 pm

technovelist wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:20 pm
Ad Orientem wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:02 pm
I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

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Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.
Then he’s the luckiest man in the world.
Exactly. I don't get people who call him an idiot. For Pete's sake, he managed to get himself elected despite being opposed by every media outlet imaginable. His net worth is debatable, but certainly hundreds of times higher than my own. If you don't like his policies, fine, just state what you think he should do. But to call him an idiot is laughable to me, unless you're just using that as a general pejorative and not actually questioning his intelligence.
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:21 pm
He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy. Stating what I assume everybody on this forum knows, US sovereign debt is not negotiable. It's a cast iron contract. If any of the things he is discussing were attempted it would spark a global financial crisis that would make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The man is a functionally illiterate knave.
What about when the US defaulted on its debt in the 1930's? Was that a cast iron contract too?
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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Post by technovelist » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:43 pm

stuper1 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:33 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:20 pm
Ad Orientem wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:09 pm



Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.
Then he’s the luckiest man in the world.
Exactly. I don't get people who call him an idiot. For Pete's sake, he managed to get himself elected despite being opposed by every media outlet imaginable. His net worth is debatable, but certainly hundreds of times higher than my own. If you don't like his policies, fine, just state what you think he should do. But to call him an idiot is laughable to me, unless you're just using that as a general pejorative and not actually questioning his intelligence.
Exactly. That's why TDS is a terrible curse. It renders otherwise sensible people unable to observe reality.
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