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Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by Maddy » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 am

Forget The Pundits, Forget The Pollsters. Look To The Bookies For Who Will Win In 2020.

When you want to know who’s going to win the next presidential election, don’t read the mainstream newspapers or tune in to the cable networks. And forget the pollsters — they don’t know diddly.

Just check in with the bookies.

“Donald Trump is still favored to win the 2020 Election with -120 average odds,” Sports Betting Dime wrote last week. That means you’d have to bet $120 just to win $100. Them’s some pretty good odds that Trump‘ll repeat.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... n-in-2020/

This got me to thinking: Considering all the difficulty we seem to be having with election rigging, could we devise an alternative system that allows the market to decide? Kind of an interesting mental exercise.
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by sophie » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:23 am

Speaking of interference in US elections...

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/07/ ... ing-sides/
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by dualstow » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:20 am

Interesting link, Maddy!
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by clacy » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:23 am

My only beef with that article is that the bookies had it totally wrong on Trump v Hillary in 2016.

And my gut says the current odds of re-election are far too low. It will be interesting to see how 2020 unfolds when there is an actual Dem nominee to run against.

Trump is at his best (like most politicians) when they have someone to run against.
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:18 pm

Maddy wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 am
This got me to thinking: Considering all the difficulty we seem to be having with election rigging, could we devise an alternative system that allows the market to decide? Kind of an interesting mental exercise.
I think it would be far easier to rig a market-polling system than to rig an election where people have to go and cast ballots, if you're using rig to mean hack. Especially if we used a lower tech, less hackable system, like the places that use only paper ballots. The way I see it, hacking is something you can do with information, not physical things. So if all your votes are digitized (information-only), then they can be hacked.

If you mean election rigging to mean, say, allowing people who aren't allowed to vote (or dead) to cast ballots, or preventing voters from voting, or the people who count physical ballots purposefully miscounting, or something like that... It seems pretty simple to minimize that kind of thing. Or at least in a high-trust society, it should be.

What did you mean by election rigging?
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by jacksonM » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:20 am

sophie wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:23 am
Speaking of interference in US elections...

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/07/ ... ing-sides/
Tulsi Gabbard has filed a 50 million dollar lawsuit against Google...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... ip-of-ads/

According to the accusation, her name was the most searched for after the debate but information appears to have been deliberately blocked.

That's a drop in the bucket to Google so I doubt they'll be too worried about it.

And we worry about the Russians!
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:13 pm

jacksonM wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:20 am
sophie wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:23 am
Speaking of interference in US elections...

https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/07/ ... ing-sides/
Tulsi Gabbard has filed a 50 million dollar lawsuit against Google...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... ip-of-ads/

According to the accusation, her name was the most searched for after the debate but information appears to have been deliberately blocked.

That's a drop in the bucket to Google so I doubt they'll be too worried about it.
Evidently this wasn't newsworthy. Good on Breitbart.
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Re: Scrap the Rigged Elections and Let the Market Decide

Post by Maddy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:04 am

This is a must-watch:

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/statu ... 7556328448

Expert testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Sub-Committee states that Google's manipulation of search results swung, "rock bottom," 2.6 million votes, and that the actual range is between 2.6 million and 10.4 million votes.
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