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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Kriegsspiel » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:14 pm

I know I missed my window, but

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I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. Who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. . . Nothing is better for a man than to eat and drink and enjoy his work.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:07 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:27 pm

Tangentially related, before he became the Stoic philosophy author/guru, Ryan Holiday wrote Trust Me, I'm Lying, about how the media is manipulated, how to spot it, etc. One tactic used is getting a story play at a bottom-feeding blog/outlet with no journalistic integrity, which then gets picked up by bigger outlets who cite the original source. That's a big reason news organizations loooooooooooove Twitter and other social media. Or just emailing news organizations/using their anonymous tips button and lying to them directly. They're pressured to get stories out immediately, so they can't fact check them. They put them out, and then (maybe) put out retractions or modify them afterwards, but "there are no consequences for being wrong" as he says.
Tim Pool was just on Joe Rogan's podcast and he gave a funny example, where his brother made up a fake story (about weed) and spoofed a news site and put it up. High Times picked it up and it got 50,000 shares. "When they corrected the article, saying it was a hoax, they said 'we wanted to call for verification, but thought the story was too hot to pass up.'"

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2:33:51 also.
I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. Who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. This too is meaningless. . . Nothing is better for a man than to eat and drink and enjoy his work.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:36 am

“I’m announcing a national emergency.”
“...I didn’t need to do this.”
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by technovelist » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:48 am

dualstow wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:36 am
“I’m announcing a national emergency.”
“...I didn’t need to do this.”
Right. He didn't have to announce it.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:25 pm

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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Cortopassi » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:43 pm

When he did his sing song of this:

"We will have a national emergency, and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the 9th Circuit, even though it shouldn't be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling, and then we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we'll get a fair shake and we'll win in the Supreme Court."

I thought: God damn. The president of the United States is up there like a valley girl.

He is so contradictory in virtually every sentence he utters it is mind boggling.

"No, no, I use many stats. I use many stats."

Pretty sure he would never make it as an engineer or any kind of analyst.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by pugchief » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:24 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:43 pm
When he did his sing song of this:

"We will have a national emergency, and we will then be sued, and they will sue us in the 9th Circuit, even though it shouldn't be there, and we will possibly get a bad ruling, and then we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we'll get a fair shake and we'll win in the Supreme Court."

I thought: God damn. The president of the United States is up there like a valley girl.

He is so contradictory in virtually every sentence he utters it is mind boggling.

"No, no, I use many stats. I use many stats."

Pretty sure he would never make it as an engineer or any kind of analyst.
He is just stating the obvious. The judges in the 9th circuit hate him and all of his policies, and it's questionable whether they are doing their job of upholding the law, or just ruling against him no matter what. And this is exactly the route this will take; ultimately he will prevail or fail in the supreme court. Washington is so sadly dysfunctional (although probably not as dysfunctional as Illinois) I just shake my head at every news cycle.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:27 am

Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:43 pm
I thought: God damn. The president of the United States is up there like a valley girl.
Was he sassy? https://youtu.be/TkTCTieHlzg
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Cortopassi » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:37 am

dualstow wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:27 am
Cortopassi wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:43 pm
I thought: God damn. The president of the United States is up there like a valley girl.
Was he sassy? https://youtu.be/TkTCTieHlzg
That is hilarious.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:16 am

technovelist wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:35 pm
He never called "the press" the enemy of the people.
He called "fake news" the enemy of the people.

Isn't it odd that they never mention that detail?
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The New York Times reporting is false. They are a true ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

5:49 AM - 20 Feb 2019
Well, case closed on that one. O0

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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by technovelist » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:03 pm

dualstow wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:16 am
technovelist wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:35 pm
He never called "the press" the enemy of the people.
He called "fake news" the enemy of the people.

Isn't it odd that they never mention that detail?
Donald J. Trump
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The New York Times reporting is false. They are a true ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

5:49 AM - 20 Feb 2019
Well, case closed on that one. O0

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6255414272
Exactly. The New York Times is fake news and is therefore the enemy of the people!
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:44 pm

Scores of ex-national security officials said Trump’s declaration of a national emergency to build a border wall wasn’t justified
-- Today's WSJ, front page, & page A8
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