Is America Safe, Or Not?

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Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by I Shrugged » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:38 pm

I propose that America is one of the safest countries you will find, assuming you are not a member of the wrong culture. I know some of you will laugh at that, but think it through. Because it is basically a choice. Yes, money plays a role for sure. But no matter your money situation, you can live somewhere in the mainstream of America, which is very safe, IMO.

When I meet foreign visitors, they always wonder how we cope with "all the crime". I have never worried about burglaries, petty theft, car theft, let alone violent crimes. I suspect that is true for most Americans. From what I see, it's not that way in most other countries. At a minimum, there seems to be more non-violent crime elsewhere, and more violent crime, but maybe not murders, in a lot of places.

Is your America safe? How do you feel about it?
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by Mountaineer » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:21 pm

I Shrugged wrote:I propose that America is one of the safest countries you will find, assuming you are not a member of the wrong culture. I know some of you will laugh at that, but think it through. Because it is basically a choice. Yes, money plays a role for sure. But no matter your money situation, you can live somewhere in the mainstream of America, which is very safe, IMO.

When I meet foreign visitors, they always wonder how we cope with "all the crime". I have never worried about burglaries, petty theft, car theft, let alone violent crimes. I suspect that is true for most Americans. From what I see, it's not that way in most other countries. At a minimum, there seems to be more non-violent crime elsewhere, and more violent crime, but maybe not murders, in a lot of places.

Is your America safe? How do you feel about it?
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Is America safe? It seems we may be increasingly less so, depending on in whom or in what we place our trust.
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:33 pm

I Shrugged wrote:Is your America safe? How do you feel about it?
I feel safer in big cities, because even though there is crime, I feel like I'm in the belly of the beast. Know what I mean? It's expected, so there are tons of police, and for those of you who don't like the police, focus on the fact that there are also tons of ambulances and hospitals.

I'm not *completely* street smart, but I have lived in major cities around the world and I know what to avoid for the most part. I have a burglar alarm on all the time.

Finally, I have watchful neighbors on a small street. Many watchful eyes. Sadly, two of my physically closest neighbors are doing a lot of AirBnB, and my favorite ones are moving. So, things are a little less safe than a few years ago in that regard.

I don't think I would feel as safe in a small town, even though I grew up in one. Or in the countryside. That's partly because I look pretty Jewy, and folks are still prejudiced, and partly because I read Stephen King's The Stand. Do you remember what happened to Nick, the deaf character, in the early pages? That's what I think about when I consider living outside of a big city. Unless it's a boring suburb or some remote island.
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by tennpaga » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:49 pm

I'd have thought a guy who looked like this...

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... would feel pretty safe anywhere.

Oh wait. That was a "J", not a "Ch".
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:23 pm

;) I still have hair, but oh what I would do for that thick head of youthful hair...
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by Mountaineer » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:47 am

Safe? I'm not so sure. One factor that I think may come into play is the increasing numbers of people with an entltlement mindset. By that I mean expecting others to provide for us rather than performing hard work on likely menial tasks to support ourselves. I expect an outgrowth of that mindset is expecting others to protect oneself. For example, at an individual level, the dependence on police vs. arming ones self (look how the culture now denigrates guns compared to 50 years ago). On a larger scale, a military that is staffed by "others" instead of stepping up and volunteering to serve (I think that mindset gathered speed with Vietnam). I typically am an optimist, but on so many levels during my 7 decades, I see an America that still looks strong by external visual measures, but is becoming soft and full of corruption on the inside. I think the outer shell will soon collapse into the internal mushiness. I doubt it will much matter whether one lives in a large city, suburbs, or small towns. Perhaps this is why I value my faith so much - a Jesus that delivers on his promises and gives us freedom; a review of history shows only one thing that can be counted upon during the easy times AND the hard. Regardless of whether one is Jewish or Christian or Hindu or Buddhist or atheist or something else, the Judeo-Christian values that our nation was founded upon have served us well, not perfectly by a long shot, but better than other value systems - and we are busily casting them aside. As Pogo famously said, we have met the enemy and he is us ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip) ).

A Roman Catholic friend of mine just sent me an email that contains the link below his intro. The article does present an interesting perspective that the core issue is "What this all means is not 'war with Islam,' – a red herring – but the perpetual struggle against all those, including in our own culture, who threaten the foundations of human freedom and dignity."

The terrorist tragedy began about only 60 minutes into the New Year…. 1/1/2017 in Turkey….more are certain to follow….it’s only a matter of where and when. How will impacted countries react this year? Will the world proact to prevent?
According to recent news…the next wave will probably take place in the Americas…..ISIS and other jihadist movements are creating respective new financial and operating bases there as we speak….with the USA as their primary target.

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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by ochotona » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:15 am

We're not safe, because we have about the highest per capita motor vehicle fatality rates among the developed countries. Your risk is not really crime, but traffic.

Also, because our healthcare system sucks, people can get wiped out financially very easily. We have great downward financial mobility in that sense. That's a safety issue, is it not? If you lose your house, you're not safe.
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by Desert » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:43 am

Wow, this is a huge topic. Traffic accidents kill ~33,000 in the U.S. each year. Murders take about half that many lives. So while driving remains the most dangerous thing we do (other than aging), that's a lot of murders. Americans kill each other a lot. We don't kill ourselves as much as some countries though, like Japan. In Japan, with less than half the U.S. population, suicides are nearly 30,000 per year. Suicide is the leading cause of death among men 20-44 in Japan. It sucks to be born in Japan. It's a nice place to visit though.

But back to the U.S. Here's an MG-worthy chart. At my age, it looks like I need to be fearing "malignant neoplasms."
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by Mountaineer » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Interesting chart. I would have guessed the leading cause of death for people <1 would be mother's choice at over 1,000,000 per year in the United States. :'(
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by ochotona » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:06 pm

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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by rickb » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:50 am

ochotona wrote:I hate getting older
The alternative isn't that great either.
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Re: Is America Safe, Or Not?

Post by curlew » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:41 pm

dualstow wrote: I don't think I would feel as safe in a small town, even though I grew up in one. Or in the countryside. That's partly because I look pretty Jewy,
I doubt that most people in small towns or the countryside even know what a Jew looks like. I can't tell myself. As long as you don't advertise it I would think it pretty easy to avoid the concentration camps.
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