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Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:40 pm
by Cortopassi
Maybe with all the cameras and electronic transactions and such, this stuff just gets harder to hide as we go forward, which is good.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:12 pm
by drumminj
Cortopassi wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:40 pm this stuff just gets harder to hide as we go forward, which is good.
Not that I'd argue that prostitution and rape of minors is a good thing but....the loss of anonymity seems like it will be bad overall. Less freedom of expression, freedom of association, people less willing to speak out and express opposing views....

Better to let 10 guilty men go free and all that?

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:43 pm
by ochotona
Epstein taught at the Dalton School, where he possibly assaulted his students. Interesting fact about Dalton:

"Tuition for 2019-20 in Grades K-12 is $51,350, which is among the lowest of our peer schools. At Dalton, the full cost of books, computers/tablets and lunch is included in the annual tuition."

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:08 pm
by Kbg
dualstow wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:53 pm That’s not really Occam’s razor, the best explanation being the simplest one. I don’t think anyone has wanted to put up with abuse, going back to caveman times.
In reference to to previous posts on this thread, close enough. ;)

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:29 am
by Cortopassi
ochotona wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:43 pm Epstein taught at the Dalton School, where he possibly assaulted his students. Interesting fact about Dalton:

"Tuition for 2019-20 in Grades K-12 is $51,350, which is among the lowest of our peer schools. At Dalton, the full cost of books, computers/tablets and lunch is included in the annual tuition."
Well, at least it includes lunch. ::)

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:22 am
by Maddy
drumminj wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:12 pm
Cortopassi wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:40 pm this stuff just gets harder to hide as we go forward, which is good.
Not that I'd argue that prostitution and rape of minors is a good thing but....the loss of anonymity seems like it will be bad overall. Less freedom of expression, freedom of association, people less willing to speak out and express opposing views....

Better to let 10 guilty men go free and all that?
What's certain is that the high-IQ, low-insight savants bent on a global technocracy are moving forward. The only viable defense to this, it appears, is for the surveilled to turn their technology against them. It's a less than satisfactory solution, but if 8x10 glossies of Bezos' private parts are what it takes to slow them down, then so be it.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:18 pm
by jacksonM
Another one you just knew was coming. It took a while but they finally found a clip in their archives from 1992....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ta ... y-n1030686
The footage shows two wealthy men laughing and pointing as they appear to discuss young women dancing at a party.
Talk about factual reporting. How do they know those two men were wealthy and why does that matter? You can't hear what they are saying but they "appear" to be discussing "young" women. I saw young women in that clip depending on what you mean by "young". I think I know what they mean to infer by the word "young" but I don't see any that appear under-age.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:21 pm
by Kriegsspiel
This might sound crazy, but I think NFL cheerleaders are hot, too.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:54 pm
by Xan
Kriegsspiel wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:21 pm This might sound crazy, but I think NFL cheerleaders are hot, too.
Well... Mostly.
Image

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:47 pm
by Kriegsspiel
NFL Fans:

NFL: OK OK OK! Jeez everyone calm down, we'll have a dude prance around out there with the cheerleaders!

NFL Fans: Image

NFL: SO INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE Image

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:50 pm
by jacksonM
Xan wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:54 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:21 pm This might sound crazy, but I think NFL cheerleaders are hot, too.
Well... Mostly.
Image
We should all be cheering for that black dude in the middle, of course.

There must be a name for those who don't clap loud enough but I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the names they come up for what's wrong with people like me.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 pm
by Kriegsspiel
jacksonM wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:50 pm There must be a name for those who don't clap loud enough but I'm having a hard time keeping up with all the names they come up for what's wrong with people like me.
Image

*sputters into glass*
Yes, yes! Diverse and beautiful! So brave!



:P :P :P

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:41 am
by Kriegsspiel

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 am
by Cortopassi
Think about it, it makes sense. The guy finally gets what's coming to him and has a choice, almost guaranteed loss at trial and put in real prison, where I understand most people don't take kindly to pedophiles, or kill yourself.

You can imagine it all to be a conspiracy, but I personally think it is logical to at least think about killing yourself in this situation.

And, sure there is the option of someone on the outside paying off someone in prison to kill him to keep him quiet. Happens all the time in the mob, at least in movies and TV!
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"Two sources told NBC News that Epstein may have tried to hang himself, while a third source cautioned that the injuries weren't serious, questioning whether Epstein might have staged an attack or a suicide attempt to get a transfer to another facility.

Another source said that an assault hadn't been ruled out and that another inmate, identified by sources as Nicholas Tartaglione, had been questioned."

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:14 am
by dualstow
That's very offensive, kriegs.
It should read "a shock to Bill and me."

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:03 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Cortopassi wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 am Think about it, it makes sense. The guy finally gets what's coming to him and has a choice, almost guaranteed loss at trial and put in real prison, where I understand most people don't take kindly to pedophiles, or kill yourself.

You can imagine it all to be a conspiracy, but I personally think it is logical to at least think about killing yourself in this situation.
Bro.... you're kinda ruining it.
And, sure there is the option of someone on the outside paying off someone in prison to kill him to keep him quiet. Happens all the time in the mob, at least in movies and TV!
I saw a few guys playing dice in the street the other day. Only saw it in movies/TV before that! Of course, on screen it's usually accompanied by an armed hold-up, so I was thinking about that at the time, but nothing exciting happened.
dualstow wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:14 am That's very offensive, kriegs.
It should read "a shock to Bill and me."
If there's one weakness of the 4chan memelords, grammar is it.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:36 pm
by Tyler
You know the guy is in trouble when the moment I saw that #ClintonBodyCount is the top trending hashtag on Twitter I figured it was Epstein without even knowing the details. But in all fairness, he reminds me of the murder mystery plot where there are so many people with motive to kill the victim that the cops have no idea where to start.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:38 pm
by dualstow
LOL!

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:08 pm
by Kriegsspiel

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:40 am
by Cortopassi
Man, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but he killed himself? After apparently trying not long ago? Wouldn't he have been on a watch?

Too convenient.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:55 am
by dualstow
Cortopassi wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:40 am Man, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but he killed himself? After apparently trying not long ago? Wouldn't he have been on a watch?

Too convenient.
He’s still alive. The joke is in the term “upcoming suicide.”

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:08 am
by drumminj
It appears he succeeded the second time.
Simonjester wrote: he was in segregated detainment under suicide watch and he got killed by a mugger, who forgot to take his wallet ? ? ?

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:45 am
by shekels
drumminj wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:08 am It appears he succeeded the second time.
I want positive DNA results, or it did not happen :-X

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:16 am
by Tyler
Cortopassi wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:40 am Man, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but he killed himself? After apparently trying not long ago? Wouldn't he have been on a watch?
It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to understand what's going on. You don't even have to think he was murdered rather than killed by his own hand to see the problem. This was entirely predictable and preventable, and the most prominent prisoner in the country with the goods on a lot of very powerful people died under federal supervision even after the first attempt failed. No matter how it ultimately went down, it stinks to high heaven.

The question now is whether people just accept the outcome and shrug off the obvious widespread corruption or demand that every last person participating in, enabling, and covering up his crimes visit the same cell.

Re: Epstein

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:14 am
by Ad Orientem
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It's been a longtime since a death was so certain to fuel conspiracy theories.