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Re: The Psychology of Money

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:58 am
by Cortopassi
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:33 am

I have a much simpler solution: parents pay for their children's education.
Let me get democratic/socialist/communist on you here, but not everyone has high paying jobs and this would seem by default to not allow many families to improve their situation through education. This likely wouldn't have worked for that Italian immigrant with a 7th grade education to end up with sons who are an orthodontist and an engineer (my case).

It might have, sure, but seems less likely for a minimum wage immigrant to afford to live and pay for good schools.
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Re: The Psychology of Money

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:46 pm
by hardlawjockey
MangoMan wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:50 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:33 am
I have a much simpler solution: parents pay for their children's education.
What if they can't afford to? Or choose not to? Isn't it better for society to have everyone educated?
When and where I grew up, the prevailing thought seemed to be that the children paid for their own education, perhaps with a little help from their parents if they were well off (which not many were where I grew up). My own parents bought an off-campus boarding house as an investment that paid for itself and gave us a place to stay for free. Beyond that we were expected to work and save to pay all of the other expenses (and if I remember correctly, the tuition for my first quarter was only $250 - but a lot of money working as a busboy at $.85/hour).

God I'm old.

Re: The Psychology of Money

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:07 pm
by Libertarian666
MangoMan wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:50 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:33 am
I have a much simpler solution: parents pay for their children's education.
What if they can't afford to? Or choose not to? Isn't it better for society to have everyone educated?
1. If someone chooses not to pay for their children's education, why should I do so?
2. If they can't do it, which would be VERY unusual without the enormous overhead imposed by today's bureaucratic nightmare of public school systems, that would be up to charitable organizations. Would you contribute to such an organization? If not, why not?
3. I'm certain that society would be far better off if everyone got to spend his own money the way he wants to. That's called "freedom".

Re: The Psychology of Money

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm
by Libertarian666
hardlawjockey wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:46 pm
MangoMan wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:50 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:33 am
I have a much simpler solution: parents pay for their children's education.
What if they can't afford to? Or choose not to? Isn't it better for society to have everyone educated?
When and where I grew up, the prevailing thought seemed to be that the children paid for their own education, perhaps with a little help from their parents if they were well off (which not many were where I grew up). My own parents bought an off-campus boarding house as an investment that paid for itself and gave us a place to stay for free. Beyond that we were expected to work and save to pay all of the other expenses (and if I remember correctly, the tuition for my first quarter was only $250 - but a lot of money working as a busboy at $.85/hour).

God I'm old.
I doubt you are much older than I am; maybe a few years at most.

My first job paid $1.25/hour, and my first "real" job paid about twice that.

Re: The Psychology of Money

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:00 pm
by Cortopassi
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:07 pm
MangoMan wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:50 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:33 am
I have a much simpler solution: parents pay for their children's education.
What if they can't afford to? Or choose not to? Isn't it better for society to have everyone educated?
1. If someone chooses not to pay for their children's education, why should I do so?
2. If they can't do it, which would be VERY unusual without the enormous overhead imposed by today's bureaucratic nightmare of public school systems, that would be up to charitable organizations. Would you contribute to such an organization? If not, why not?
3. I'm certain that society would be far better off if everyone got to spend his own money the way he wants to. That's called "freedom".
tech, I wonder if you are actually an anarchist guy I know... ;)

I guess it is called society. I am happy to pay for roads, for schools, for snow removal, for police, for fire, etc. There are costs to living in a society. Of course it is not as efficient as it could be but with instant information of the internet, it actually seems to be getting better. Scams, corruption, etc are exposed much more often and in real time, so I have hope.