The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Libertarian666 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:23 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am
Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.


http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA

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Post by sophie » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:01 am

Mountaineer, thank you for this link. I've sent it to a few "safe" people who are also happy to read something sensible about this whole mess. It has been completely amazing to me how deaths of blacks who weren't killed by police are being totally ignored. Not to mention deaths of other crime victims. The degree to which this factually shaky narrative has taken over the groupthink is just shocking.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Libertarian666 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:06 am

sophie wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:01 am
Mountaineer, thank you for this link. I've sent it to a few "safe" people who are also happy to read something sensible about this whole mess. It has been completely amazing to me how deaths of blacks who weren't killed by police are being totally ignored. Not to mention deaths of other crime victims. The degree to which this factually shaky narrative has taken over the groupthink is just shocking.
If you think it's bad now, just wait until a Democrat gets elected President. That will be the end of our civil rights.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by sophie » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:27 pm

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am
Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.


http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA

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Mountaineer, are you sure the letter is genuine?

It occurred to me that the author, if actually a history professor at UC Berkeley, could be identified with the info in this letter. I just pulled up the webpage with the Berkeley dept of history faculty, and there are two black members - both tenured.

I still agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments in the letter, but I highly doubt a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter, and b) that either of them would publish this letter if they were genuinely afraid of that happening.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Mountaineer » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:39 pm

sophie wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:27 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am
Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.


http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA

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Mountaineer, are you sure the letter is genuine?

It occurred to me that the author, if actually a history professor at UC Berkeley, could be identified with the info in this letter. I just pulled up the webpage with the Berkeley dept of history faculty, and there are two black members - both tenured.

I still agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments in the letter, but I highly doubt a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter, and b) that either of them would publish this letter if they were genuinely afraid of that happening.
Sure as in I would bet my life on it? No. Sure as it is probably true? Yes. I had the same questions as you. Who knows about anything one reads on the internet ... even from those who have a good track record. Discernment is a valuable gift. I just hope I have the gift. :)
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by l82start » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:15 pm

"a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter,"
i doubt that.. Berkeley is the home of free speech... this would be a firing offense i am sure.. you could likely get canned for much less.. like mis-gendering someone..

i suspect it may be a fake for reason B) and also for reason C) it is not likely you would find a clear thinking tenured professor anywhere in CA, much less Berkeley, there is a strict diversity quota that prevents diversity of thought ... never get in the door, much less tenured..
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Post by pugchief » Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:54 pm

Harvard Law School professor Laurence Tribe faced backlash and has apologized for his comments about presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s running mate choice, saying that when Biden picks his running mate, he should do it based on each contender’s qualifications and reputation, not skin color.
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Post by sophie » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:23 am

Another WSJ article predicting a combination of a reversion to the high crime era of the 1980s combined with the permanent expansion of remote work which will accelerate the exodus.

The only question is whether voters will wake up in time to stop it. This includes the working minority populations who know that their neighborhoods will be the first to descend into chaos. Also, as soon as people start to perceive that crime is increasing, the popular opinion will shift back to "we want politicians who are tough on crime". Remember how the Dukakis campaign was crushed by the ads about Willie Horton, and being labelled as "soft on crime" was a virtual political death sentence?

Hopefully, people will remember the past well enough that it won't be necessary to go through the entire cycle again.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-ur ... _lead_pos3
A new analysis by the American Enterprise Institute’s Ed Pinto and Tobias Peter also shows that the pandemic and riots appear to be driving more Americans to the suburbs. Over the last four weeks, home purchases (as measured by interest-rate mortgage application locks) in non-urban areas have increased by a third more than in urban areas compared to the same period last year.

Home purchases in the least dense ZIP codes of metropolitan areas increased twice as much year-over-year as in the most dense. Home purchases fell 6% in LA metro’s densest neighborhoods while increasing 36% in the least. There were also huge disparities by ZIP code density in New York (34% in least dense versus -1% in the most), Minneapolis (49% versus -14%), Seattle (26% versus 8%), San Francisco (26% versus 1%), Chicago (26% versus 10%) and Washington, D.C. (39% versus 13%).

There was less variation in Miami, Orlando, Atlanta and Dallas, which coincidentally or not had fewer violent protests.
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Big-city progressive politicians have long treated businesses and taxpayers like ATMs to finance their public-union machines. But the pandemic has shown companies and employees that they can prosper working remotely. If this new urban exodus continues, cities like San Francisco, New York and Chicago are in for a rude fiscal awakening.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Libertarian666 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:16 pm

sophie wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:23 am
Another WSJ article predicting a combination of a reversion to the high crime era of the 1980s combined with the permanent expansion of remote work which will accelerate the exodus.

The only question is whether voters will wake up in time to stop it. This includes the working minority populations who know that their neighborhoods will be the first to descend into chaos. Also, as soon as people start to perceive that crime is increasing, the popular opinion will shift back to "we want politicians who are tough on crime". Remember how the Dukakis campaign was crushed by the ads about Willie Horton, and being labelled as "soft on crime" was a virtual political death sentence?

Hopefully, people will remember the past well enough that it won't be necessary to go through the entire cycle again.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-ur ... _lead_pos3
A new analysis by the American Enterprise Institute’s Ed Pinto and Tobias Peter also shows that the pandemic and riots appear to be driving more Americans to the suburbs. Over the last four weeks, home purchases (as measured by interest-rate mortgage application locks) in non-urban areas have increased by a third more than in urban areas compared to the same period last year.

Home purchases in the least dense ZIP codes of metropolitan areas increased twice as much year-over-year as in the most dense. Home purchases fell 6% in LA metro’s densest neighborhoods while increasing 36% in the least. There were also huge disparities by ZIP code density in New York (34% in least dense versus -1% in the most), Minneapolis (49% versus -14%), Seattle (26% versus 8%), San Francisco (26% versus 1%), Chicago (26% versus 10%) and Washington, D.C. (39% versus 13%).

There was less variation in Miami, Orlando, Atlanta and Dallas, which coincidentally or not had fewer violent protests.
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Big-city progressive politicians have long treated businesses and taxpayers like ATMs to finance their public-union machines. But the pandemic has shown companies and employees that they can prosper working remotely. If this new urban exodus continues, cities like San Francisco, New York and Chicago are in for a rude fiscal awakening.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:20 pm

What do you even call that?

Jim Snow Laws?

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:39 am

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:20 pm
What do you even call that?

Jim Snow Laws?

Apart-hide?
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