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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:09 pm
by dualstow
Outrage Greets Danish Lutheran Group’s Rewrite of Bible to Omit Word ‘Israel’
https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/04/22/o ... rd-israel/
The group claimed the move was to avoid identifying ancient Israel with today’s State of Israel, although other ancient names with modern equivalents, such as “Egypt,” are not omitted.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:41 pm
by Tortoise
MangoMan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:32 pm
Just another example of the pervasive and ever growing antisemitism in Europe.
Makes sense, given Europe's growing love affair with Islam.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:41 pm
by Xan
They may well have done it for anti-Jewish reasons. But do Jews really like Christians using "Israel"? As referring to Jesus as the King of Israel, or referring to themselves as the true Israel?
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:14 pm
by dualstow
Xan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:41 pm...
But do Jews really like Christians using "Israel"?
Works for me.
As referring to Jesus as the King of Israel,
In the context of his original peeps worshipping him, I think it makes sense.
or referring to themselves as the true Israel?
You mean modern-day Christians? Do they do that?
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:58 pm
by Mountaineer
dualstow wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:14 pm
Xan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:41 pm...
But do Jews really like Christians using "Israel"?
Works for me.
As referring to Jesus as the King of Israel,
In the context of his original peeps worshipping him, I think it makes sense.
or referring to themselves as the true Israel?
You mean modern-day Christians? Do they do that?
My tradition would say look at Israel* (Israelites) as an hourglass. Jesus is Israel reduced to one. The purpose of Israel (the chosen Hebrews) was to bring Jesus the Savior into the scene. All the Christians from Jesus on are grafted into the vine (or family tree of believers if you wish) in Jesus so you could say Israel means Christians (believers in the Christ, Jesus or followers of the Way) from Jesus' time forward; that would be referring to the line of Hebrews that went through King David to Jesus and forward for those that believe Jesus is the Christ.
* The word Israel has different meanings depending on what you are discussing. God changed Jacob's name to Israel after the wrestling match struggle. Israel(ites) also refers to the Hebrews that descended from the Abraham-Sarah, and Israel refers to the state of modern day Israel, the state, not necessarily the inhabitants thereof. That's a short version. Hope I did not muddy the waters too much.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:11 pm
by dualstow
I guess the answer is yes, they do.
I didn't know about that.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:38 pm
by Tortoise
Per Emojipedia: Tears of Joy, not to be confused with
(Rolling on the Floor Laughing).
Edit: I just read the fine print that the Tears of Joy emoji is often used to show something is “funny or pleasing.” So not just joy. I learned something new!
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:06 pm
by Kriegsspiel
So why was my initial relief at hearing Oxford and Imperial are racing away to develop the vaccine followed by worry?
Let’s suppose that Oxford does develop the first vaccine. What happens next?
David Heymann, an infectious disease specialist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who heads a panel that advises the World Health Organization (WHO) on Coronavirus, says that there could be a production shortage. Researchers have also warned that this will lead to rich countries hoarding supplies. We were too late when it came to stockpiling PPE, but we won’t be caught out again. The vaccine, developed by our finest brains, is ours. And it will be Britons who are prioritised for protection.
. . . If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.
Dr Emily Cousens researches vulnerability and gender at Oxford Brookes university and teaches on the women’s studies masters course at University of Oxford. link
Huffington Post, desperately trying to keep gender studies afloat in these trying times. The comments at the bottom are very supportive.
via, of course,
Tim
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 12:03 pm
by dualstow
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:16 pm
by sophie
Biggest example of all: the lockdowns which will decimate blue state budgets. Let's see what happens with Georgia and Sweden, but I would bet not a lot. It is just as likely that the hospitalizations are slowing down because there's already herd immunity building up in NYC, with a quarter of us already showing positive antibodies. And NJ cases are continuing to increase DESPITE the lockdown in that state, which as a result has no end in sight.
Also, I hate to say this out loud but...COVID may be Nature's way of saving Medicare and Social Security. A lot of medical expenses now, sure...but less later.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 5:26 pm
by Kriegsspiel
sophie wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 5:16 pm
Biggest example of all: the lockdowns which will decimate blue state budgets. Let's see what happens with Georgia and Sweden, but I would bet not a lot. It is just as likely that the hospitalizations are slowing down because there's already herd immunity building up in NYC, with a quarter of us already showing positive antibodies. And NJ cases are continuing to increase DESPITE the lockdown in that state, which as a result has no end in sight.
Also, I hate to say this out loud but...COVID may be Nature's way of saving Medicare and Social Security. A lot of medical expenses now, sure...but less later.
Don't worry sophie, "Even though the state government asked thousands of people to come to New York from out of state to help fight coronavirus, they will have to pay New York state taxes, even on income they might make from their home states that they're paid while in New York."
link
Andrew Cuomo said "If we don't get more money from Washington, we can't fund schools, right, so at the rate we want to fund them. We are in dire financial need."
"We're not in a position to provide any subsidies right now because we have a $13 billion deficit,so there's a lot of good things I'd like to do, and if we get federal funding, we can do, but it would be irresponsible for me to sit here looking at a $13 billion deficit and say I'm gonna spend more money, when I can't even pay the essential services."
Plus, maybe New York will get
federal bailouts?
Per figures from the Empire Center (based on Census data for 2017), New York spent $23,091 per student on K-12 education, versus a national average of about $12,000. But don’t worry, New York City spends way more still, at about $28,000 per student annually. The premium spending basically goes to higher salaries, fatter pensions, and lots more administrators than they have in other jurisdictions. Nobody in New York would ever suggest bringing our school spending in line before asking the rest of the country to pay for it.
It's all good in the hood. Where's that bogleheads beer smiley?
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 6:37 pm
by Tortoise
By the way, DS, watching this TV show clip ruined my day yesterday. So thanks for that.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 7:04 pm
by dualstow
Tortoise wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 6:37 pm
By the way, DS, watching this TV show clip ruined my day yesterday. So thanks for that.
Without clicking, I don’t even remember what it is- oh, right, the headgear. That was weird.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 7:36 pm
by Kriegsspiel
dualstow wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Tortoise wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 6:37 pm
By the way, DS, watching this TV show clip ruined my day yesterday. So thanks for that.
Without clicking, I don’t even remember what it is- oh, right, the headgear. That was weird.
It seems that's just a real scene from an American TV drama. I had to watch it twice because I thought I missed the joke.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 7:47 pm
by dualstow
heh, kind of the opposite of Titania McGrath on twitter, whom many people don’t realize *is* a joke persona.
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 7:36 pm
dualstow wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Tortoise wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 6:37 pm
By the way, DS, watching this TV show clip ruined my day yesterday. So thanks for that.
Without clicking, I don’t even remember what it is- oh, right, the headgear. That was weird.
It seems that's just a real scene from an American TV drama. I had to watch it twice because I thought I missed the joke.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 8:04 pm
by Kriegsspiel
If the whole mask thing has taught me anything, it's that I can objectify women no matter how they're covering their face and/or hair. It would be a superpower if I lived in an Islamic country.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:30 am
by Mountaineer
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 8:04 pm
If the whole mask thing has taught me anything, it's that I can objectify women no matter how they're covering their face and/or hair. It would be a superpower if I lived in an Islamic country.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 7:50 am
by Xan
Wait... Have I been wearing my underwear wrong all these years????
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 8:43 am
by dualstow
The oft-criticized 1619 Project was mentioned in Kids:Then and Now.
For those who have access, there’s a WSJ Editorial:
The 1619 Project’ Tells a False Story About Capitalism, Too
Writing in 1854, George Fitzhugh described slavery as ‘a beautiful example of communism.’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-1619-p ... 1588956387
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:37 pm
by Ad Orientem
These Young Socialists Think They Have Courage. They Don’t.
The progressive magazine The Nation published an open letter last month in which former members of the radical 1960s organization Students for a Democratic Society pleaded with a younger generation of leftists to support Joe Biden for president. The letter, titled “To the New New Left From the Old New Left,” warned that the re-election of President Trump would jeopardize “the very existence of American democracy.”
The signatories expressed fear that some supporters of Bernie Sanders, including members of the Democratic Socialists of America, would “refuse to support” Mr. Biden because they consider him “a representative of Wall Street Capital” — and therefore, in essential respects, not fundamentally better than Mr. Trump.
The letter was fair and sensible in its reasoning and right-minded in its conclusion. Given that the difference of a few thousand votes in states such as Michigan and Wisconsin might allow Mr. Trump to win a second term, a quixotic display of socialist principle in the 2020 election could have disastrous repercussions for the nation and the world.
Unfortunately, the letter’s fears were well-founded. The Democratic Socialists of America had already declined to back Mr. Biden. It has been joined in that refusal by Jacobin magazine, an influential publication among young leftists.
Read the rest here...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/opin ... e=Homepage
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 11:01 am
by Kriegsspiel
Journalists Caught Pretending To Wear Masks While Shaming People Who Don't, Fake News Exposed via Tim Pool
The video clip (with sound) is on the Fox
article. It's pretty funny, but Tim's point about the difference in context for other stories where journalists say people were jeering/bullying them is something to think about. It's easy to see people getting riled up when they see journalists all without masks until the cameras start rolling, then they put them on and talk about how dangerous it is and "these people around me don't seem to care" or whatever they said in the other situation.
This one in particular is analogous to the one where the Weather Channel guy was standing in a roadside ditch so he could claim the water was up to his chest, or the one where the reporter was struggling to stay upright in the hurricane, then you see people casually strolling along in the background. IE, cynically playing up the danger to manipulate TV audiences.
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:24 pm
by dualstow
Sorry this is so big. I’ll resize it when I’m on the desktop. ✓ Resized.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:29 pm
by Smith1776
dualstow wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:24 pm
Sorry this is so big. I’ll resize it when I’m on the desktop.
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Political correctness is getting so out of hand... it's becoming the ideological equivalent of an ouroborus. As the thread title implies, it's just eating itself!
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:14 pm
by Kriegsspiel
Police arrested the 36 on suspicion of trespassing, burglary, causing property damage, stealing and assault. They range in age from 17 to 36 but the majority of them are teens and people in their 20s.
"In a stunning development, our office has learned that every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner"
- Missouri Attorney General
link
Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:45 pm
by Libertarian666
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:14 pm
Police arrested the 36 on suspicion of trespassing, burglary, causing property damage, stealing and assault. They range in age from 17 to 36 but the majority of them are teens and people in their 20s.
"In a stunning development, our office has learned that every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner"
- Missouri Attorney General
link
That is so shocking. It's
almost like they wanted the looting and rioting to continue.
(Rolling on the Floor Laughing).