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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:56 pm
by pugchief
ochotona wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:44 pm
Biden proved his total cluelessness about healthcare. His implicit assumption is that the cost of HC in the US is somehow a universal constant like the speed of light, and he can't seem to entertain the idea that the entire system is screwed up, which is why we overpay for worse service in this country as compared to other developed countries. In other words, he'd be Aquarius for big pharma, insurance co., hospital chains and defend them as if they were Apple Pie and Motherhood.
While I agree with your statements in theory,

1. There a lot of complicated reasons healthcare in the US is more expensive than elsewhere, and fixing it is going to be no easy task if not impossible. Having the government take it over might 'fix' it if you consider making it worse a fix.

2. The other Dem candidates want Medicare for all with no clue how to pay for it, so Biden is the only one that is realistic on the topic in many ways.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:04 pm
by Kriegsspiel
pugchief wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:56 pm
1. There a lot of complicated reasons healthcare in the US is more expensive than elsewhere, and fixing it is going to be no easy task if not impossible. Having the government take it over might 'fix' it if you consider making it worse a fix.
Bernie talked again about importing drugs from Canada. A quick search doesn't show many drugs being manufactured in Canada. Seems pretty fucking fishy, as we discussed in the other thread.
2. The other Dem candidates want Medicare for all with no clue how to pay for it, so Biden is the only one that is realistic on the topic in many ways.
Warren, in particular, really seemed to dodge that when Biden kid-punched her personally.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:16 pm
by ochotona
Importation from Canada really means from India. But I've done it for years (Uloric) and it has worked out fine. I have saved tens of thousands of dollars on this one compound.

My Pravachol from Costco was made in India. Big whooping deal

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:42 pm
by dualstow
Maybe we need a Healthcare News and Views thread.
I woke up from a nap to hear a story about ants feeding on a Vietnam veteran in a V.A. hospital.
wtf

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... al-for-va/

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:36 am
by dualstow
This is a few days old now, but it’s just good.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lim33dV_jfc

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:20 am
by sophie
For people buying drugs from India...here's a pretty scary article to gulp down with your Valsartan:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... st-the-fda

Importing drugs from Canada is a crazy idea. The reason Bernie wants to do it is that Canada's government negotiates prices with the pharmaceuticals, which means they don't pay the market rates charged in the US. Removing the gag order that prevents CMS from doing the same here would be a much more direct and logical approach. The effort currently underway to limit the ability to artificially extend drug patents by tweaking formulations (e.g. the "extended release" dodge) is also quite sensible.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:13 pm
by Kriegsspiel

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:26 pm
by dualstow
Please let it be so.
Still, I think this brushfire has a ways to burn.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:48 pm
by Maddy
sophie wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:20 am
For people buying drugs from India...here's a pretty scary article to gulp down with your Valsartan:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... st-the-fda

Importing drugs from Canada is a crazy idea. The reason Bernie wants to do it is that Canada's government negotiates prices with the pharmaceuticals, which means they don't pay the market rates charged in the US. Removing the gag order that prevents CMS from doing the same here would be a much more direct and logical approach. The effort currently underway to limit the ability to artificially extend drug patents by tweaking formulations (e.g. the "extended release" dodge) is also quite sensible.
Looks like the problem was with China. (Big surprise.) To the best of my knowledge, India is the source of the lion's share of generics we see here in the U.S.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:58 pm
by dualstow
Two For Tuesday

French teacher fired for not using trans student’s preferred pronouns (He called the student by his/her name)
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... r-n1060876

Remember Smollett, or as Dave Chappelle refers to him, Juicy Smolliér?
Smollett case special prosecutor donated $1,000 to Kim Foxx’s campaign, co-hosted fundraiser
https://www.foxnews.com/us/smollett-cas ... fundraiser

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:41 pm
by pugchief
dualstow wrote:Breaking: Schwab to end trading commissions

Great news for everyone except people who own Schwab stock.

Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:13 pm
by dualstow
pugchief wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:41 pm
dualstow wrote:Breaking: Schwab to end trading commissions

Great news for everyone except people who own Schwab stock.
O0 true! Or stock in similar firms. They fell, broadly.