That is so shocking. It's almost like they wanted the looting and rioting to continue.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:14 pm"In a stunning development, our office has learned that every single one of the St. Louis looters and rioters arrested were released back onto the streets by local prosecutor Kim Gardner"Police arrested the 36 on suspicion of trespassing, burglary, causing property damage, stealing and assault. They range in age from 17 to 36 but the majority of them are teens and people in their 20s.
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I find it odd, all this increasing talk of "black bodies" in reference to living, breathing people.
It's older than I thought. There's a 2018 Boston Globe article on the subject.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/ ... story.html
It's older than I thought. There's a 2018 Boston Globe article on the subject.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2018/ ... story.html
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Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.
http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA
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http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA
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DNA has its own language (code), and language requires intelligence. There is no known mechanism by which matter can give birth to information, let alone language. It is unreasonable to believe the world could have happened by chance.
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When they say "diversity", they mean "lots of dark skin colors and women".Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.
http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA
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Diversity of opinion is against their religion.
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Mountaineer, thank you for this link. I've sent it to a few "safe" people who are also happy to read something sensible about this whole mess. It has been completely amazing to me how deaths of blacks who weren't killed by police are being totally ignored. Not to mention deaths of other crime victims. The degree to which this factually shaky narrative has taken over the groupthink is just shocking.
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If you think it's bad now, just wait until a Democrat gets elected President. That will be the end of our civil rights.sophie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:01 am Mountaineer, thank you for this link. I've sent it to a few "safe" people who are also happy to read something sensible about this whole mess. It has been completely amazing to me how deaths of blacks who weren't killed by police are being totally ignored. Not to mention deaths of other crime victims. The degree to which this factually shaky narrative has taken over the groupthink is just shocking.
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Mountaineer, are you sure the letter is genuine?Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.
http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA
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It occurred to me that the author, if actually a history professor at UC Berkeley, could be identified with the info in this letter. I just pulled up the webpage with the Berkeley dept of history faculty, and there are two black members - both tenured.
I still agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments in the letter, but I highly doubt a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter, and b) that either of them would publish this letter if they were genuinely afraid of that happening.
Simonjester wrote: "a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter,"
i doubt that.. Berkeley is the home of free speech... this would be a firing offense i am sure.. you could likely get canned for much less.. like mis-gendering someone..
i suspect it may be a fake for reason B) and also for reason C) it is not likely you would find a clear thinking tenured professor anywhere in CA, much less Berkeley, there is a strict diversity quota that prevents diversity of thought ... never get in the door, much less tenured..
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Sure as in I would bet my life on it? No. Sure as it is probably true? Yes. I had the same questions as you. Who knows about anything one reads on the internet ... even from those who have a good track record. Discernment is a valuable gift. I just hope I have the gift.sophie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:27 pmMountaineer, are you sure the letter is genuine?Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:29 am Common sense letter from a professor who can't attach his name to is and keep his job. It has been authenticated by professors at other universities, including Thomas Sowell, who received copies. Note that this appears on the Internet Archive, for it has been removed from where it was originally posted.
http://web.archive.org/web/202006111110 ... m/WBzAFDgA
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It occurred to me that the author, if actually a history professor at UC Berkeley, could be identified with the info in this letter. I just pulled up the webpage with the Berkeley dept of history faculty, and there are two black members - both tenured.
I still agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments in the letter, but I highly doubt a) that Berkeley would be able to fire a tenured black faculty member without a much better excuse than this letter, and b) that either of them would publish this letter if they were genuinely afraid of that happening.
DNA has its own language (code), and language requires intelligence. There is no known mechanism by which matter can give birth to information, let alone language. It is unreasonable to believe the world could have happened by chance.
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Another WSJ article predicting a combination of a reversion to the high crime era of the 1980s combined with the permanent expansion of remote work which will accelerate the exodus.
The only question is whether voters will wake up in time to stop it. This includes the working minority populations who know that their neighborhoods will be the first to descend into chaos. Also, as soon as people start to perceive that crime is increasing, the popular opinion will shift back to "we want politicians who are tough on crime". Remember how the Dukakis campaign was crushed by the ads about Willie Horton, and being labelled as "soft on crime" was a virtual political death sentence?
Hopefully, people will remember the past well enough that it won't be necessary to go through the entire cycle again.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-ur ... _lead_pos3
The only question is whether voters will wake up in time to stop it. This includes the working minority populations who know that their neighborhoods will be the first to descend into chaos. Also, as soon as people start to perceive that crime is increasing, the popular opinion will shift back to "we want politicians who are tough on crime". Remember how the Dukakis campaign was crushed by the ads about Willie Horton, and being labelled as "soft on crime" was a virtual political death sentence?
Hopefully, people will remember the past well enough that it won't be necessary to go through the entire cycle again.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-ur ... _lead_pos3
A new analysis by the American Enterprise Institute’s Ed Pinto and Tobias Peter also shows that the pandemic and riots appear to be driving more Americans to the suburbs. Over the last four weeks, home purchases (as measured by interest-rate mortgage application locks) in non-urban areas have increased by a third more than in urban areas compared to the same period last year.
Home purchases in the least dense ZIP codes of metropolitan areas increased twice as much year-over-year as in the most dense. Home purchases fell 6% in LA metro’s densest neighborhoods while increasing 36% in the least. There were also huge disparities by ZIP code density in New York (34% in least dense versus -1% in the most), Minneapolis (49% versus -14%), Seattle (26% versus 8%), San Francisco (26% versus 1%), Chicago (26% versus 10%) and Washington, D.C. (39% versus 13%).
There was less variation in Miami, Orlando, Atlanta and Dallas, which coincidentally or not had fewer violent protests.
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Big-city progressive politicians have long treated businesses and taxpayers like ATMs to finance their public-union machines. But the pandemic has shown companies and employees that they can prosper working remotely. If this new urban exodus continues, cities like San Francisco, New York and Chicago are in for a rude fiscal awakening.
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"“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.”" -- attributed to Hegel.sophie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:23 am Another WSJ article predicting a combination of a reversion to the high crime era of the 1980s combined with the permanent expansion of remote work which will accelerate the exodus.
The only question is whether voters will wake up in time to stop it. This includes the working minority populations who know that their neighborhoods will be the first to descend into chaos. Also, as soon as people start to perceive that crime is increasing, the popular opinion will shift back to "we want politicians who are tough on crime". Remember how the Dukakis campaign was crushed by the ads about Willie Horton, and being labelled as "soft on crime" was a virtual political death sentence?
Hopefully, people will remember the past well enough that it won't be necessary to go through the entire cycle again.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-ur ... _lead_pos3
A new analysis by the American Enterprise Institute’s Ed Pinto and Tobias Peter also shows that the pandemic and riots appear to be driving more Americans to the suburbs. Over the last four weeks, home purchases (as measured by interest-rate mortgage application locks) in non-urban areas have increased by a third more than in urban areas compared to the same period last year.
Home purchases in the least dense ZIP codes of metropolitan areas increased twice as much year-over-year as in the most dense. Home purchases fell 6% in LA metro’s densest neighborhoods while increasing 36% in the least. There were also huge disparities by ZIP code density in New York (34% in least dense versus -1% in the most), Minneapolis (49% versus -14%), Seattle (26% versus 8%), San Francisco (26% versus 1%), Chicago (26% versus 10%) and Washington, D.C. (39% versus 13%).
There was less variation in Miami, Orlando, Atlanta and Dallas, which coincidentally or not had fewer violent protests.
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Big-city progressive politicians have long treated businesses and taxpayers like ATMs to finance their public-union machines. But the pandemic has shown companies and employees that they can prosper working remotely. If this new urban exodus continues, cities like San Francisco, New York and Chicago are in for a rude fiscal awakening.
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What do you even call that?
Jim Snow Laws?
Apart-hide?
Jim Snow Laws?
Apart-hide?
You there, Ephialtes. May you live forever.
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Beyond the pale!
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Ha!
Well, we already have a de facto situation where a black person can commit crimes with no repercussions whatsoever, so....hey why not. We already know the virus is racist.
Oops wait...wasn't it supposed to be racist in the other direction??
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It's very smart. It knows exactly in which direction to be racist in any given situation!
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The rationale seems to have something to do with racial profiling so I have to ask, how does wearing a mask prevent racial profiling? Seems to me if blacks don't wear masks and whites do that makes it even easier to racially profile. So what am I missing?MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:31 pm Oregon county issues face mask order that exempts non-white people
And aren't blacks "triggered" by seeing white people wear masks - I mean doesn't it remind them of Ku Klux Klan hoods or something?
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Maybe they think that people will think they are planning to rob a bank?pp4me wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:31 pmThe rationale seems to have something to do with racial profiling so I have to ask, how does wearing a mask prevent racial profiling? Seems to me if blacks don't wear masks and whites do that makes it even easier to racially profile. So what am I missing?MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:31 pm Oregon county issues face mask order that exempts non-white people
And aren't blacks "triggered" by seeing white people wear masks - I mean doesn't it remind them of Ku Klux Klan hoods or something?
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If black people aren't required to wear masks and you see a black man wearing a mask why wouldn't you be more suspicious rather than less?Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:23 pmMaybe they think that people will think they are planning to rob a bank?pp4me wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:31 pmThe rationale seems to have something to do with racial profiling so I have to ask, how does wearing a mask prevent racial profiling? Seems to me if blacks don't wear masks and whites do that makes it even easier to racially profile. So what am I missing?MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:31 pm Oregon county issues face mask order that exempts non-white people
And aren't blacks "triggered" by seeing white people wear masks - I mean doesn't it remind them of Ku Klux Klan hoods or something?
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Yes, including bringing back segregation, which some of them are proposing right now!Simonjester wrote: because if we divide people up and make rules for them according to their color we will finally end racism...
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Everything but the headline.pp4me wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:31 pmThe rationale seems to have something to do with racial profiling so I have to ask, how does wearing a mask prevent racial profiling? Seems to me if blacks don't wear masks and whites do that makes it even easier to racially profile. So what am I missing?MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:31 pm Oregon county issues face mask order that exempts non-white people
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The premise is that blacks are being “forced” to look dangerous to whites, which will in turn endanger blacks in a more immediate way than coronavirus. Of course the other side is arguing that it’s just a way to get blacks infected while protecting whites. Stupidity all around.
That’s a valid point. I guess the crazy people who came up with this are convinced that black people in masks are in trouble no matter what the law or scenario is, so they have the option to look scary and be safe from the virus or look less suspicious and expose themselves to the virus. They get to pick their poison.If black people aren't required to wear masks and you see a black man wearing a mask why wouldn't you be more suspicious rather than less?
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Simonjester wrote: the only logical solution to having a law that allows black people to not wear masks, and to be exposing themselves to the virus, is to have racially designated drinking fountains, restaurant seating etc. how else are you going to avoid people of other colors from contracting it?
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I think the exemption applies to all non-whites.
Right down to Liz Warren!
Right down to Liz Warren!
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oh dear lordMangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:04 am Petition asks Trader Joe's to change its 'racist' food packaging
@Cortopassi: You are Italian, your wife is Chinese. Were you guys ever offended by the logo Trader Giotto or Trader Ming? I know that my Chinese daughter in law is not.
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Hilarious.
Next thing you know, labeling restaurants as "Italian" or "Chinese" or "Thai" is going to be considered racist. Regional cuisines will no longer be allowed to exist then, I guess. Wonder how that will go over among the soul food restaurants in Harlem.
Next thing you know, labeling restaurants as "Italian" or "Chinese" or "Thai" is going to be considered racist. Regional cuisines will no longer be allowed to exist then, I guess. Wonder how that will go over among the soul food restaurants in Harlem.
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Was there ever a slave trader named Joe? If so, they will have to change their company name!MangoMan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:04 am Petition asks Trader Joe's to change its 'racist' food packaging
@Cortopassi: You are Italian, your wife is Chinese. Were you guys ever offended by the logo Trader Giotto or Trader Ming? I know that my Chinese daughter in law is not.
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I remember restaurants shut down because the owner was the wrong ethnicity. Two white women set up Mexican place after studying their asses off and yes, maybe they were a little flippant when joking about peeking through the windows of housewives to gain recipes. Still, imagine going through all the work to set up a restaurant and then closing because of the charge of cultural appropriation.sophie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:13 am Hilarious.
Next thing you know, labeling restaurants as "Italian" or "Chinese" or "Thai" is going to be considered racist. Regional cuisines will no longer be allowed to exist then, I guess. Wonder how that will go over among the soul food restaurants in Harlem.
These same people, the pitchfork and torch mob, don’t mind a Chinese-run Korean restaurant, perhaps because at least it’s Asians who are vaguely people of color. Close enough. That’s not racist at all.
The charge of “exoticism” in the Joe’s article above is particularly ridiculous. Since when is it a crime to find exotic cultures exotic, and why is that mutually exclusive from respecting those cultures?