The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

[sophie]

Hilarious! The self-centeredness of that attitude is breathtaking.

How about this for the ultimate expression of the title of this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... s-n1166021

The Democrats just can't help themselves. They HAVE to sabotage anything Republican-initiated, even if it means destroying the country's economy apparently.

[Cortopassi]

Hilarious! The self-centeredness of that attitude is breathtaking.

How about this for the ultimate expression of the title of this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... s-n1166021

The Democrats just can't help themselves. They HAVE to sabotage anything Republican-initiated, even if it means destroying the country's economy apparently.

I do not know the detail of the bill, but they are all adding more debt than at anytime in the history of the country, if it takes an extra day, so be it.

Whether warranted or not, if this is grandstanding it would suck, but this better damn well be biased toward working people and not propping up industries that blew their money on stock buybacks, or, for example, the cruise industry, which seems to almost 100% of the time have ships registered out of country so as to not pay US taxes and hire workers outside of US wage and working conditions laws. They should suffer the consequences.

[vnatale]

Hilarious! The self-centeredness of that attitude is breathtaking.

How about this for the ultimate expression of the title of this thread:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... s-n1166021

The Democrats just can't help themselves. They HAVE to sabotage anything Republican-initiated, even if it means destroying the country's economy apparently.

I do not know the detail of the bill, but they are all adding more debt than at anytime in the history of the country, if it takes an extra day, so be it.

Whether warranted or not, if this is grandstanding it would suck, but this better damn well be biased toward working people and not propping up industries that blew their money on stock buybacks, or, for example, the cruise industry, which seems to almost 100% of the time have ships registered out of country so as to not pay US taxes and hire workers outside of US wage and working conditions laws. They should suffer the consequences.

I've failed to understand Trump's obsession with rescuing the cruise ship industry. Add to your reasons, that it's a completely un-essential and tiny industry. What else can one infer but that someone he's trying to protect his own financial interests somehow tied to the cruise ship industry? I have never been on one and even prior to this happening was not foreseeing being on one in the future. Again, why does he always mention them in the same breathe with airlines and hotels?

Vinny

[Cortopassi]

I have never been on one and even prior to this happening was not foreseeing being on one in the future.

My wife's uncle goes 2-3x a year on cruises.

I've never been and never saw the appeal. I'm not one for structured vacations. I like randomness / spur of the moment changes, on vacations. Not in my real life...!

[Maddy]

In today's news, college professors are running scared that their on-line lectures will be picked up by right-wing media.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/03/ ... ing-sites/

[Tortoise]

In today's news, college professors are running scared that their on-line lectures will be picked up by right-wing media.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/03/ ... ing-sites/

Like cockroaches scurrying away when someone flicks on the light.

[dualstow]

In today's news, college professors are running scared that their on-line lectures will be picked up by right-wing media.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/03/ ... ing-sites/

I didn’t get it from the headline alone, but yeah, it does make sense.

One user in the thread argued that conservative outlets have a “history of making misleading edits to remove context” and then sharing those videos “get professors in trouble.”

[sophie]

That seems like an absurd and out-of-the-blue concern, except that all those professors are living in a universe rife with identity politics, and where freedom of speech went out the window ages ago.

[dualstow]

Awesome!

[dualstow]

Maybe it's unfair of me to put this article in this thread. If anyone objects, I'll be happy to delete it and put it in its own thread.

With Coronavirus Disrupting College, Should Every Student Pass?
College students across the country are pushing to abolish grades, saying the only letters that matter now are C-O-V-I-D.

My response:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/c ... -fail.html

[vnatale]

Maybe it's unfair of me to put this article in this thread. If anyone objects, I'll be happy to delete it and put it in its own thread.

With Coronavirus Disrupting College, Should Every Student Pass?
College students across the country are pushing to abolish grades, saying the only letters that matter now are C-O-V-I-D.

My response:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/c ... -fail.html

Stunningly beautiful picture of your cat.

I'm old enough to remember and go through Kent State in May 1970. I was at a conservative college so we barely had disruptions for a week or so. This is FAR, FAR, FAR worse than then. We were offered choosing 1) Pass / Fail 2) Take grade 3) Drop course. We did not have to make a blanket choice. Same 3 choices for each course. Therefore, I'd say offer them the same choices.

Vinny

[dualstow]

Interesting. Thank you. Noted in the article: some schools are offering pass/fail while allowing higher performers to "unmask" their letter grades.

[Kriegsspiel]

Fat Studies Professors Worry Pandemic May Increase 'Fatphobia' - via Tim Pool, of course.

LOL

[dualstow]

Fat Studies Professors Worry Pandemic May Increase 'Fatphobia' - via Tim Pool, of course.

LOL

I listened to the whole thing. Fat studies. On Wednesday, Nova had a program on fat, and how it is vital to life. They showed a guy who, from the age of 6, has not been able to retain fat except behind his eyeballs. His face is sunken, and he said walking feels like pins and needles are going into his feet because he has no padding.

On the other end of it, there are people who eat what everyone else eats and they blow up. They exercise, and their resting rate of weight loss slows down, because their bodies are engineered to not lose weight. That's a scientific fact.

At the same time, this "health at any size" trend is...no.

Tim should get rid of his skating buddy co-hosts. They're annoying and don't add anything to the conversation. I guess that's why I like the podcasts, where it's just him.

[Kriegsspiel]

Tim should get rid of his skating buddy co-hosts. They're annoying and don't add anything to the conversation. I guess that's why I like the podcasts, where it's just him.

I tend to agree. I think it would be great if his producer would stop chiming in all the time unless she's going to add some kind of long comment or look something up for them (like the guy does on Joe Rogan's). His friend is a good foil because he doesn't know about stuff, so Tim ends up explaining/riffing a lot. Sometimes his input is entertaining. I hope they get better at not interrupting each other and cluttering up the audio so much.

[sophie]

Oh my god...is Fat Studies really a thing? Ridiculous!!!!

Looked at the right way.....this is all the grandaddy of all unintended consequences - of George McGovern's creation of national dietary guidelines based on the misguided notion that decreasing fat and increasing carbohydrates is the Solution to Everything. People did much better before those guidelines came along. The obesity epidemic took off just after they were implemented. Which is when manufacturers started making processed food with the fat taken out, and sugar added to give flavor. Correlation not causality, true, but it's a pretty interesting parallel.

[Libertarian666]

Oh my god...is Fat Studies really a thing? Ridiculous!!!!

Looked at the right way.....this is all the grandaddy of all unintended consequences - of George McGovern's creation of national dietary guidelines based on the misguided notion that decreasing fat and increasing carbohydrates is the Solution to Everything. People did much better before those guidelines came along. The obesity epidemic took off just after they were implemented. Which is when manufacturers started making processed food with the fat taken out, and sugar added to give flavor. Correlation not causality, true, but it's a pretty interesting parallel.

We have also had an enormous hidden addition to our diet that may be responsible for some of the ills we are encountering: glyphosate. According to Stephanie Seneff, that molecule is incorporated in proteins in place of glycine and causes no end of biological damage: http://www.tonu.org/2016/11/05/glyphosate-glycine/.

[sophie]

Roundup, yeah. Pretty much all grains are grown with the stuff. And it kills me when I see people putting it on their lawns.

Another change pushed by the USDA: industrial vegetable oils (canola, safflower, sunflower, soybean). Be not fooled, these are not healthy. There's evidence that these potentiate cancers (in lab animals) and contribute directly to weight gain.

[Libertarian666]

Roundup, yeah. Pretty much all grains are grown with the stuff. And it kills me when I see people putting it on their lawns.

Another change pushed by the USDA: industrial vegetable oils (canola, safflower, sunflower, soybean). Be not fooled, these are not healthy. There's evidence that these potentiate cancers (in lab animals) and contribute directly to weight gain.

We eat organic as much as we can. That's about the only way to avoid most glyphosate exposure.
We also avoid those oils. Avocado oil, organic butter (ghee), and organic olive oil are about it for us.

[Mountaineer]

Roundup, yeah. Pretty much all grains are grown with the stuff. And it kills me when I see people putting it on their lawns.

Another change pushed by the USDA: industrial vegetable oils (canola, safflower, sunflower, soybean). Be not fooled, these are not healthy. There's evidence that these potentiate cancers (in lab animals) and contribute directly to weight gain.

Roundup (https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ro ... and-health) is a total kill herbicide if used widespread on a lawn. Could you perhaps be seeing people apply 2,4-D (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dichl ... cetic_acid) products all over their lawn to kill broadleaf plants such as dandelions? Just curious.

[Kriegsspiel]

Two doctors suffering from acute TDS steal neighbor's MAGA flag in Florida as their child begs them to stop. The actual Ring video is actually pretty sad when you see the little kid run around tugging on his parents shirts. It's how I imagine the scene plays out in drug addicts' houses.

[vnatale]

Two doctors suffering from acute TDS steal neighbor's MAGA flag in Florida as their child begs them to stop. The actual Ring video is actually pretty sad when you see the little kid run around tugging on his parents shirts. It's how I imagine the scene plays out in drug addicts' houses.

I watched it. What immediately came to mind is that they suffer from something far more basic - intolerance. It's not impossible that if you could put them in Germany in the 1930s that they would then have become those "good" Germans who did things which to this day many of us find difficult to understand.

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

Why would you blanket statement that they're intolerant in general? Nothing in there said they were intolerant of black people. Or Jews. Just Trump supporters.

[vnatale]

Why would you blanket statement that they're intolerant in general? Nothing in there said they were intolerant of black people. Or Jews. Just Trump supporters.

I was not making a blanket statement that they are intolerant of all others in all situations. Just saying that the type who are so intolerant of someone's views to then follow it up with what they did fits in with the "good German" personality type.

Since the 1990s there have been these "Bleacher Creatures" in the right field bleachers of Yankee Stadium. At the start of every game they'd chant the name of every Yankees player on the field and each player would wave in their direction.

Everyone thought these "bleacher creatures" were so cute.

As did I. Until I started sitting amongst them. I was not doing so because I wanted to be one of them. I was because their spot for congregating was also where I wanted to sit.

Then one day when I was observing their behavior, which was expressing their extreme displeasure that other fans were choosing to participate in "The Wave", all of a sudden I had an epiphany!

I was sitting amongst the "good Germans"! It was their way or no way! Individually I'm sure that most of these Bleacher Creatures were the same as you and I. But now that they were collectively together a great majority of them were behaving in an intolerant way.

Transport them back to Germany in the 1930s and, voila, and under the influences of all that was going on there then, they could have become those "good Germans". Just ordinary people like you and I but from their behavior that day I could easily see becoming "good Germans".

Getting back to our two doctors. To behave in such an intolerant manner speaks of being an intolerant person. It's not enough that I disagree with you. I have to take away your right to disagree with me. Or, do my best to attempt to do so.

Do you think that the behavior they exhibited is the ONLY time when they are intolerant people? Only when it involves Trump supporters? Intolerant people are intolerant people. Of course there are degrees but you'd have to do a lot explaining to me to get me to believe that this is the only aspect of their lives when they are intolerant, i.e., when it involves Trump supporters.

We might both agree that they modeled exceptionally poor behavior in front of their two children.

Vinny

[dualstow]

Two doctors suffering from acute TDS steal neighbor's MAGA flag in Florida as their child begs them to stop. The actual Ring video is actually pretty sad when you see the little kid run around tugging on his parents shirts. It's how I imagine the scene plays out in drug addicts' houses.

Tim

It's like these people have been taken over by brain worms

They're lucky they only got arrested, and not shot.