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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 am
by jacksonM
jhogue wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:51 am
More great news for Trump:

Bernie Sanders declared for President. Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show (who does a wicked Trump imitation, by the way) made fun of Bernie three nights running, calling him an Old Man.

Bernie's Santa Claus Socialism and his entry into the race form an important milestone in the Democrats' road to ruin. He certainly hates "the rich" on principle, but he may not personally hate Trump enough to satisfy the party's TDS wing.
Now you have leading candidates coming out for reparations for slavery (Harris and Booker I believe and in the case of Pocahontas she will also include native Americans).

Socialism, the Green New Deal, reparations for slavery - do these bozos really think a majority of the American people are going to vote for this stuff? If they put one of them at the top of the ticket I suspect Pat Buchanan will be right in his prediction that Trump will win by a landslide.

Personally, I don't feel particularly motivated to go to the polls and vote for Trump on his own merits at this time. He talks non-interventionism abroad and then surrounds himself with some of the worse neocons imaginable. He talks about limiting all immigration, both legal and illegal to get elected and then he not only doesn't build the wall but he says in his POTUS speech that he wants to open the floodgates for more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, if one of the Dem nutjobs gets nominated I will be forced to hold my nose and go vote for him as the lesser of two evils.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:56 pm
by dualstow
Remember 2016 when Bernie was fringe? Now he’s just another Democratic candidate in the mix. O0

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
by technovelist
jacksonM wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 am
jhogue wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:51 am
More great news for Trump:

Bernie Sanders declared for President. Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show (who does a wicked Trump imitation, by the way) made fun of Bernie three nights running, calling him an Old Man.

Bernie's Santa Claus Socialism and his entry into the race form an important milestone in the Democrats' road to ruin. He certainly hates "the rich" on principle, but he may not personally hate Trump enough to satisfy the party's TDS wing.
Now you have leading candidates coming out for reparations for slavery (Harris and Booker I believe and in the case of Pocahontas she will also include native Americans).

Socialism, the Green New Deal, reparations for slavery - do these bozos really think a majority of the American people are going to vote for this stuff? If they put one of them at the top of the ticket I suspect Pat Buchanan will be right in his prediction that Trump will win by a landslide.

Personally, I don't feel particularly motivated to go to the polls and vote for Trump on his own merits at this time. He talks non-interventionism abroad and then surrounds himself with some of the worse neocons imaginable. He talks about limiting all immigration, both legal and illegal to get elected and then he not only doesn't build the wall but he says in his POTUS speech that he wants to open the floodgates for more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, if one of the Dem nutjobs gets nominated I will be forced to hold my nose and go vote for him as the lesser of two evils.
Are there any Dems who aren't nutjobs who could win the nomination? I'm not holding my breath to see if there is one.

As to the original question about whether Trump will be re-elected, here's my favorite political analyst on that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDY-g7aUzxk

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:24 am
by Xan
technovelist wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
Are there any Dems who aren't nutjobs who could win the nomination? I'm not holding my breath to see if there is one.
He isn't technically aiming for "the nomination", but Schultz could potentially make some noise.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:37 am
by dualstow
Aside from her unfairly going after Al Franken, Kirsten Gillibrand seems fairly levelheaded. Or, does she not count as someone who could win?

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:22 pm
by jacksonM
technovelist wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
jacksonM wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 am
jhogue wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:51 am
More great news for Trump:

Bernie Sanders declared for President. Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show (who does a wicked Trump imitation, by the way) made fun of Bernie three nights running, calling him an Old Man.

Bernie's Santa Claus Socialism and his entry into the race form an important milestone in the Democrats' road to ruin. He certainly hates "the rich" on principle, but he may not personally hate Trump enough to satisfy the party's TDS wing.
Now you have leading candidates coming out for reparations for slavery (Harris and Booker I believe and in the case of Pocahontas she will also include native Americans).

Socialism, the Green New Deal, reparations for slavery - do these bozos really think a majority of the American people are going to vote for this stuff? If they put one of them at the top of the ticket I suspect Pat Buchanan will be right in his prediction that Trump will win by a landslide.

Personally, I don't feel particularly motivated to go to the polls and vote for Trump on his own merits at this time. He talks non-interventionism abroad and then surrounds himself with some of the worse neocons imaginable. He talks about limiting all immigration, both legal and illegal to get elected and then he not only doesn't build the wall but he says in his POTUS speech that he wants to open the floodgates for more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, if one of the Dem nutjobs gets nominated I will be forced to hold my nose and go vote for him as the lesser of two evils.
Are there any Dems who aren't nutjobs who could win the nomination? I'm not holding my breath to see if there is one.

As to the original question about whether Trump will be re-elected, here's my favorite political analyst on that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDY-g7aUzxk
I'm sure there a lot of things I will disagree with her on if I look close enough but I like Tulsi Gabbard for her views on foreign policy. I'm not sure if there is another non-interventionist among all the candidates. Though I had my doubts, Trump had me convinced that he leaned that way but I'm starting to conclude that he says one thing, does another, and hopes nobody notices or cares that much.

That guy on youtube reflects my own views pretty well.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:19 pm
by technovelist
jacksonM wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:22 pm
technovelist wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am
jacksonM wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 am


Now you have leading candidates coming out for reparations for slavery (Harris and Booker I believe and in the case of Pocahontas she will also include native Americans).

Socialism, the Green New Deal, reparations for slavery - do these bozos really think a majority of the American people are going to vote for this stuff? If they put one of them at the top of the ticket I suspect Pat Buchanan will be right in his prediction that Trump will win by a landslide.

Personally, I don't feel particularly motivated to go to the polls and vote for Trump on his own merits at this time. He talks non-interventionism abroad and then surrounds himself with some of the worse neocons imaginable. He talks about limiting all immigration, both legal and illegal to get elected and then he not only doesn't build the wall but he says in his POTUS speech that he wants to open the floodgates for more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, if one of the Dem nutjobs gets nominated I will be forced to hold my nose and go vote for him as the lesser of two evils.
Are there any Dems who aren't nutjobs who could win the nomination? I'm not holding my breath to see if there is one.

As to the original question about whether Trump will be re-elected, here's my favorite political analyst on that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDY-g7aUzxk
I'm sure there a lot of things I will disagree with her on if I look close enough but I like Tulsi Gabbard for her views on foreign policy. I'm not sure if there is another non-interventionist among all the candidates. Though I had my doubts, Trump had me convinced that he leaned that way but I'm starting to conclude that he says one thing, does another, and hopes nobody notices or cares that much.

That guy on youtube reflects my own views pretty well.
Styxhexenhammer666 is a pretty big Trump fan at this point, although he won't hesitate to call him out on things he disagrees with (e.g., the "bump stock" ban).

As for whether he is a non-interventionist, he looks that way to me. What new wars has he started? And he is trying to extricate us from some existing wars after pretty much accomplishing the original goal (decimate ISIS) of one of them.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:00 pm
by jacksonM
technovelist wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:19 pm
jacksonM wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:22 pm
technovelist wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:44 am


Are there any Dems who aren't nutjobs who could win the nomination? I'm not holding my breath to see if there is one.

As to the original question about whether Trump will be re-elected, here's my favorite political analyst on that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDY-g7aUzxk
I'm sure there a lot of things I will disagree with her on if I look close enough but I like Tulsi Gabbard for her views on foreign policy. I'm not sure if there is another non-interventionist among all the candidates. Though I had my doubts, Trump had me convinced that he leaned that way but I'm starting to conclude that he says one thing, does another, and hopes nobody notices or cares that much.

That guy on youtube reflects my own views pretty well.
Styxhexenhammer666 is a pretty big Trump fan at this point, although he won't hesitate to call him out on things he disagrees with (e.g., the "bump stock" ban).

As for whether he is a non-interventionist, he looks that way to me. What new wars has he started? And he is trying to extricate us from some existing wars after pretty much accomplishing the original goal (decimate ISIS) of one of them.
No, he hasn't started any new wars and is obviously trying to work for peace with North Korea as we speak. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see how far he is willing to go with "all options are on the table" in Venezuela and also in Iran if either of those countries go far enough to call his bluff. Maybe he is just playing good cop/bad cop with the neocons he has surrounded himself with as some have suggested. I hope that is true.

As for Syria. He said we were going to withdraw completely but to the delight of Lindsey Graham and others he decided to leave a "peacekeeping force" with numbers of 200-400 soldiers depending on which article you read. Reminds me of Reagan's peacekeeping force in Beirut. When they were attacked and many were killed Reagan wisely decided it was a mistake to leave them there and brought them home. Hopefully, Trump won't be put to the same test but I would rather he had done what he said and exited Syria completely.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:30 pm
by Kriegsspiel
I don't think Tulsi Gabbard's foreign policies vary much from Trump's. And other than that she is very similar to Bernie Sanders. So I won't be voting for her, but I could see a lot of Democrats liking her.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:51 pm
by jhogue
This important update (and milestone) in Trump's re-election campaign:

Trump's fellow billionaire Michael Bloomberg announces he will not run for President, saying:

“we cannot allow the primary process to drag the party to an extreme that would diminish our chances in the general election and translate into ‘Four More Years.’”

Bloomberg, a congenital Democrat who ran for mayor of New York City as first a Republican and then an independent, does not hail from the Looney Tunes wing of his party.


Source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael- ... 3e410a00ea

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:22 pm
by dualstow
He’s simply too old. Maybe twelve, 24 years ago...

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:55 pm
by technovelist
jhogue wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:51 pm
This important update (and milestone) in Trump's re-election campaign:

Trump's fellow billionaire Michael Bloomberg announces he will not run for President, saying:

“we cannot allow the primary process to drag the party to an extreme that would diminish our chances in the general election and translate into ‘Four More Years.’”

Bloomberg, a congenital Democrat who ran for mayor of New York City as first a Republican and then an independent, does not hail from the Looney Tunes wing of his party.


Source:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael- ... 3e410a00ea
Unfortunately for the Ds, and fortunately for Trump, it is looking more and more likely that the Ds will not field anyone who could win.

If they field a left-wing lunatic like Sanders, moderate Democrats will desert.
If they field a "moderate" like Biden, the left-wing lunatics will desert.