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Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:24 am
by shekels
Cortopassi wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:09 am Gotta love the drawn in Sharpie line that just *barely* clips Alabama.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics ... index.html
Ah weather forecasters, reminds me of economists.

It boils down to the models that you want to go with.

“Perhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.”

I heard Disney was going to be hit. ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19yMj2p23I

Did not read article I avoid Star Magazine or CNN and The National Enquirer Grocery Store Checkout Papers.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:48 pm
by ochotona
MangoMan wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:50 pm Ya, but he's still the front-runner.
If it's Biden v. Trump, Trump wins IMO

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm
by Smith1776
My gut is on Sanders with this one... if not, I think Warren would take it.

Either of them would defeat Donald Trump IMHO. Even members of Trump's own base seem disillusioned with his absolutely asinine behaviour.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:36 pm
by dualstow
Smith1776 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm My gut is on Sanders with this one... if not, I think Warren would take it.

Either of them would defeat Donald Trump IMHO. Even members of Trump's own base seem disillusioned with his absolutely asinine behaviour.
Sanders is a really nice guy with an intense base, but I don’t see him winning this time around. I think he has the same chances as Linux becoming the dominant operating system (all flavors) of the U.S. Hey, it’s got a really intense fan base. I’d love to have Bernie as an uncle.

Some of it’s anecdotal: I know people who even worked on his campaign (low level, small role) who aren’t supporting him in 2020. And, it’s painful to say it, but the Dems will find something, anything wrong with a white male candidate.

Elizabeth Warren maybe? At least, I think she could become the top Dem contender.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:04 pm
by Smith1776
dualstow wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:36 pm
Smith1776 wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 pm My gut is on Sanders with this one... if not, I think Warren would take it.

Either of them would defeat Donald Trump IMHO. Even members of Trump's own base seem disillusioned with his absolutely asinine behaviour.
Sanders is a really nice guy with an intense base, but I don’t see him winning this time around. I think he has the same chances as Linux becoming the dominant operating system (all flavors) of the U.S. Hey, it’s got a really intense fan base. I’d love to have Bernie as an uncle.

Some of it’s anecdotal: I know people who even worked on his campaign (low level, small role) who aren’t supporting him in 2020. And, it’s painful to say it, but the Dems will find something, anything wrong with a white male candidate.

Elizabeth Warren maybe? At least, I think she could become the top Dem contender.
We really need to start that precious metals betting pool on the election.

Xan can be the croupier!

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:58 pm
by Ad Orientem
G.O.P. Plans to Drop Presidential Primaries in 4 States to Impede Trump Challengers...
WASHINGTON — The Republican Parties in Arizona, Kansas, Nevada and South Carolina intend to cancel the 2020 presidential primaries in their states, according to three people familiar with their plans, a move aimed at depriving President Trump’s long-shot challengers of chances to build support.

The state parties have not formalized their decisions, but Mr. Trump’s challengers denounced the move. Joe Walsh, a former Tea Party congressman from Illinois who announced his candidacy last month, said he planned to fight the move legally and by appealing directly to voters in those states.

“It’s something a mob boss would do,” Mr. Walsh said in an interview. “All the times in 2016 when he said the Democrats were rigging the system to elect Hillary? He is actually eliminating elections in certain states, and that’s undemocratic.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/us/p ... e=Homepage

The Republican Party has become a political cult. I've never voted Democrat for any political office above the purely local in my life. And the local exceptions were exactly two, both times for my father. But if the Democrats don't nominate a leftist moonbat next year, I will probably take a stiff drink, steady my shaking hand, and pull the lever for their guy. Yes, I think things are that bad. Joe Biden is wrong about almost every issue I care about. But...

* He is not a nut.
* He is not morally bankrupt.
* I am reliably informed that he can read and write.

And that is pretty much what it has come down to. I am so over Trump and the cult of personality he has constructed. The GOP has lost its soul and it needs purification. And that is only going to come from a trip to the electoral woodshed.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:39 pm
by dualstow
See that, Libertarian666? That’s not TDS. That is a bit of sanity.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:48 pm
by Ad Orientem
MangoMan wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:39 pm Ad O, I don't disagree with anything you said, except would qualify a couple of points.

1. The likelihood of the Dems not nominating a leftist nut is slim, as Biden is pretty much the only one who does not meet that mold.

2. The Dems need 'purification' more than the GOP in my opinion. Both sides have lost their way, but the Dems have gone off the deep end.
Yeah. Biden is the only top tier Dem who is not a moonbat.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:54 am
by Mountaineer
Ad Orientem wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:48 pm
MangoMan wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:39 pm Ad O, I don't disagree with anything you said, except would qualify a couple of points.

1. The likelihood of the Dems not nominating a leftist nut is slim, as Biden is pretty much the only one who does not meet that mold.

2. The Dems need 'purification' more than the GOP in my opinion. Both sides have lost their way, but the Dems have gone off the deep end.
Yeah. Biden is the only top tier Dem who is not a moonbat.
Second hand info so read in that context: I know several people who know Biden personally; he lives in my area. Based on their comments, one should be very careful to exclude him from the moonbats - he comes across as a nice but bumbling guy - but beware.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:51 am
by Kriegsspiel
Hey Ad O.. you can always vote Libertarian :D

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:57 am
by shekels

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:29 am
by Kriegsspiel
Fantastic

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:31 pm
by Ad Orientem
Kriegsspiel wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:51 am Hey Ad O.. you can always vote Libertarian :D

I did that back in '04. I couldn't vote for W and his Empire building.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:58 am
by dualstow
I agree with most of that.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:14 pm
by boglerdude
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/dup ... _homeless/

Ill change my mind and vote for him if he does it. The homeless apologists grind my gears.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:12 am
by dualstow
boglerdude wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:14 pm https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/dup ... _homeless/

Ill change my mind and vote for him if he does it. The homeless apologists grind my gears.
volcano?

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:27 pm
by boglerdude
Yes. Techno and I can agree on this. I cant believe all the shrieking in this thread about concentration camps, with no one providing any ideas:
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comme ... _homeless/

Meanwhile when I point out what works and can scale up:
https://www.ksat.com/news/haven-for-hop ... -las-vegas
https://mlf.org/community-first/

ofc I get downvoted because its not a utopian narrative

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:20 am
by Maddy
And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:53 am
by Libertarian666
Maddy wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:20 am And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?
"If something offends you, do not do it to others."

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:57 am
by dualstow
The upvoting and downvoting on reddit generally don’t make sense. Like twitter, it simply does not reflect real life.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:16 am
by Kriegsspiel
dualstow wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:57 am The upvoting and downvoting on reddit generally don’t make sense. Like twitter, it simply does not reflect real life.
I agree, I could never get into the way reddit operates. Upvoting/downvoting? It's like reddit took a great technology (internet bulletin boards) and paired it with the worst aspects of social media (likes, notifications, iPopularity).

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:58 am
by shekels
Maddy wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:20 am And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?


https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

I have seen Wisdom in the comments.
In places that you may not expect. Of course not everyone would agree. Hence the Quarantine

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 am
by dualstow
Did they move somewhere, btw?
A more important question: Is there some conservative platform out there that is kind of mellow?

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:31 am
by shekels
dualstow wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:21 am Did they move somewhere, btw?
A more important question: Is there some conservative platform out there that is kind of mellow?
No it is still there, just that it is restricted due to significant issues with reporting and addressing violations of the Reddit Content Policy.
One thing that has been brought up is no Spammers due to the quarantine.

It is open to debate on how Mellow it is, but on the whole for the different regions of people, it is pretty Tame.

Re: Will Trump be Re-elected?

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:34 am
by dualstow
Ah, thank you. The last time I looked, I couldn't view it at all. Didn't know it was temporary.