Will Trump be Re-elected?

[Ad Orientem]

Hey Ad O.. you can always vote Libertarian

I did that back in '04. I couldn't vote for W and his Empire building.

[dualstow]

I agree with most of that.

[boglerdude]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/dup ... _homeless/

Ill change my mind and vote for him if he does it. The homeless apologists grind my gears.

[dualstow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/dup ... _homeless/

Ill change my mind and vote for him if he does it. The homeless apologists grind my gears.

volcano?

[boglerdude]

Yes. Techno and I can agree on this. I cant believe all the shrieking in this thread about concentration camps, with no one providing any ideas:
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comme ... _homeless/

Meanwhile when I point out what works and can scale up:
https://www.ksat.com/news/haven-for-hop ... -las-vegas
https://mlf.org/community-first/

ofc I get downvoted because its not a utopian narrative

[Maddy]

And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?

[Libertarian666]

And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?

"If something offends you, do not do it to others."

[dualstow]

The upvoting and downvoting on reddit generally don’t make sense. Like twitter, it simply does not reflect real life.

[Kriegsspiel]

The upvoting and downvoting on reddit generally don’t make sense. Like twitter, it simply does not reflect real life.

I agree, I could never get into the way reddit operates. Upvoting/downvoting? It's like reddit took a great technology (internet bulletin boards) and paired it with the worst aspects of social media (likes, notifications, iPopularity).

[shekels]

And it troubles you that wisdom is not found in a forum dominated by opinions that can be expressed in 15 words or less?

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

I have seen Wisdom in the comments.
In places that you may not expect. Of course not everyone would agree. Hence the Quarantine

[dualstow]

Did they move somewhere, btw?
A more important question: Is there some conservative platform out there that is kind of mellow?

[shekels]

Did they move somewhere, btw?
A more important question: Is there some conservative platform out there that is kind of mellow?

No it is still there, just that it is restricted due to significant issues with reporting and addressing violations of the Reddit Content Policy.
One thing that has been brought up is no Spammers due to the quarantine.

It is open to debate on how Mellow it is, but on the whole for the different regions of people, it is pretty Tame.

[dualstow]

Ah, thank you. The last time I looked, I couldn't view it at all. Didn't know it was temporary.

[Cortopassi]

I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

[Ad Orientem]

I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.

[Kriegsspiel]

I get why governments want negative interest rates, but I don't like them. Disagree with Trumpus Magnus here.

[Ad Orientem]

He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy. Stating what I assume everybody on this forum knows, US sovereign debt is not negotiable. It's a cast iron contract. If any of the things he is discussing were attempted it would spark a global financial crisis that would make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The man is a functionally illiterate knave.

[Kriegsspiel]

He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy.

I think by "start to refinance our debt. . . while at the same time substantially lengthening the term" he's saying that we'd start issuing negative interest rate Treasuries at longer maturities than 30 years. Not that once the Fed lowers interest rates below 0% we would call in every (non-callable) Treasury and tell people to buy them and pay us for the privilege.

What a sickening thought. I wouldn't be paying anyone to lend them money, that's for sure.

[dualstow]

Trumpus Magnus

[stuper1]

I'm sure we'd all love negative rates right? The bonehead is the one who is tweeting and will lose more and more retirees if interest income becomes an expense!

Please excuse the language but sometimes you need to call a shovel a shovel. Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. And a dangerous one at that.

Then he’s the luckiest man in the world.

Exactly. I don't get people who call him an idiot. For Pete's sake, he managed to get himself elected despite being opposed by every media outlet imaginable. His net worth is debatable, but certainly hundreds of times higher than my own. If you don't like his policies, fine, just state what you think he should do. But to call him an idiot is laughable to me, unless you're just using that as a general pejorative and not actually questioning his intelligence.

[Libertarian666]

He is talking about arbitrarily hammering down interest rates by FED decree to zero or negative. AND he wants to refinance our debt like it's some kind of chapter 11 corporate bankruptcy. Stating what I assume everybody on this forum knows, US sovereign debt is not negotiable. It's a cast iron contract. If any of the things he is discussing were attempted it would spark a global financial crisis that would make 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The man is a functionally illiterate knave.

What about when the US defaulted on its debt in the 1930's? Was that a cast iron contract too?

[flyingpylon]

What I don’t understand is why even after 3 years, some people continue to take everything he says at face value. So much of Trump’s communication is simply posturing to eventually arrive at something more realistic or reasonable.

[ochotona]

It's all posturing and tough talk until he wimps out / gives away the store to the adversary without getting anything in return for us.

[Libertarian666]

It's all posturing and tough talk until he wimps out / gives away the store to the adversary without getting anything in return for us.

Got an example?

[stuper1]

I'd love to see an example also.

On a different note, I think a lot of people dislike Trump because he's attacked various people say on Twitter. I recall somebody doing some checking on that and finding that Trump hadn't attacked anyone until he had been attached by them first, but when he does hit back, he hits back hard. Of course, you never hear it reported about the initial attack against Trump. I'm not from the east coast, but it seems to me that this is just your stereotypical New Yorker attitude. If somebody attacks you, then attack them back even harder. I say good for him, and I'm probably one of the least pugilistic type of people around. At least he's not a mealy mouthed wimp. If the American people don't like it, they can vote him out of office next year. I have my suspicions that more people like it than what some people realize.