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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Tortoise » Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:24 pm

Even Scott Adams, one of the biggest admirers of Trump in the podcasting world, is pretty unhappy about how Trump has been handling the coronavirus and the related press conferences. He was almost cursing about it on one if his most recent episodes.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by technovelist » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:58 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:24 pm
Even Scott Adams, one of the biggest admirers of Trump in the podcasting world, is pretty unhappy about how Trump has been handling the coronavirus and the related press conferences. He was almost cursing about it on one if his most recent episodes.
I haven't kept up with Scott Adams in the past few days. What exactly is he unhappy about? I think Trump has been doing everything possible.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Tortoise » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:28 pm

technovelist wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:58 pm
I haven't kept up with Scott Adams in the past few days. What exactly is he unhappy about? I think Trump has been doing everything possible.
The thing I heard Scott Adams rant about was the press conference where Trump said he’d prefer everyone on the cruise ship off the coast of California to remain on the ship, because if they disembarked it would make the U.S. coronavirus stats look worse.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:18 pm

It also wasn’t too cool when he just walked off the set of the press conference when reporters were asking about the appointment of Pence as coronaczar.
(as detailed in the John Oliver clip in the youtube thread)
To Alex Azar: “It sounds like you’re being replaced.”
Azar: “No, I’m still in charge and I’m delighted—“
{Trump leaves}
— that Vice President Pence will be on board...”
Herman Cain says the virus is under control and there’s nothing to be concerned about
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by technovelist » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:28 am

Tortoise wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:28 pm
technovelist wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:58 pm
I haven't kept up with Scott Adams in the past few days. What exactly is he unhappy about? I think Trump has been doing everything possible.
The thing I heard Scott Adams rant about was the press conference where Trump said he’d prefer everyone on the cruise ship off the coast of California to remain on the ship, because if they disembarked it would make the U.S. coronavirus stats look worse.
Ok, I agree that isn't a great thing to say. But did he forbid them to enter the country? Apparently not.
So it didn't actually affect anyone other than via perception.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Cortopassi » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:20 pm

I wonder if he gets the mortality rate differences. And fake news dropping the market. Uh huh. Just wait till we finally start really testing. I believe the scapegoats won't work anymore.

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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Tortoise » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:50 pm

technovelist wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:28 am
Tortoise wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:28 pm
technovelist wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:58 pm
I haven't kept up with Scott Adams in the past few days. What exactly is he unhappy about? I think Trump has been doing everything possible.
The thing I heard Scott Adams rant about was the press conference where Trump said he’d prefer everyone on the cruise ship off the coast of California to remain on the ship, because if they disembarked it would make the U.S. coronavirus stats look worse.
Ok, I agree that isn't a great thing to say. But did he forbid them to enter the country? Apparently not.
So it didn't actually affect anyone other than via perception.
Yeah, I don't think it was Trump's action that bothered Adams; it was his publicly stated justification for that action. One of the things that Adams likes most about Trump is his skill in persuasion and for saying things that generally inspire confidence in his supporters (not in his detractors, obviously).

Adams is 63 years old and has a respiratory issue (asthma), so he feels particularly vulnerable to COVID-19. Because of that, he was particularly critical of Trump's faux pas regarding the people quarantined on the cruise ship. It made Trump sound more concerned with his stats than with the health of the American people, which Adams really resented. Aside from Trump, he also thinks the rest of the U.S. government generally isn't being as proactive about COVID-19 as some other governments have been. At least initially, they took more of a "move along, nothing to see here" approach rather than being conservative and trying to really get ahead of it.

Adams became similarly angry toward China when his son-in-law died from an opiate overdose. When an issue involves his health or the health of someone he's close to, Adams takes it very personally and rants passionately on his podcast.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by vnatale » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:46 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:50 pm


Adams became similarly angry toward China when his son-in-law died from an opiate overdose. When an issue involves his health or the health of someone he's close to, Adams takes it very personally and rants passionately on his podcast.

Is this in any similar to when a politician's view on an issue "evolves" after the position they'd formerly taken now affects someone in their family in a negative way?

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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:06 pm

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/13/a-disa ... residency/

A disastrous week that may define — or doom — Donald Trump's presidency

A botched Oval Office speech, a Wall Street collapse — and an epidemic that has already reached the White House


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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:56 pm

I am listening to his press conf right now. I need alcohol. They all might as well be blowing him.
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:01 pm

😂 It’s a better conference than the last speech, though.
Doesn’t Tony Fauci seem spry for a 79-year-old?
Herman Cain says the virus is under control and there’s nothing to be concerned about
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Re: Trump as tragicomedy

Post by flyingpylon » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:02 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:56 pm
I am listening to his press conf right now. I need alcohol. They all might as well be blowing him.
Stock market seems to like it.
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