Renewable electricity sources are now a no-brainer

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Post by Pointedstick » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:54 pm

Old steam trains are amazing to me. People built those things with hand tools and no electricity. Some of the finest pieces of pre-electric technology that have ever existed, IMHO.

There's actually no reason we couldn't keep doing it. With our modern understanding of thermodynamics and materials science, I'm sure we could design super high efficiency engines that barely emit any smoke at all. And of course wood is a carbon-neutral fuel! ;D If my friends on the left are correct and Donald Trump drives the USA into another dark age, I expect we could revive steam train technology very quickly, at least. ;)
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Post by Desert » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:02 pm

This is the first bike that completely scared the crap out of me, as a teenager. This exact model. I didn't own it, it was my uncle's bike. It was hard to keep the front end down when it hit the powerband. This is a 2-stroke, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebvt7JNXHwU
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Post by Mountaineer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:13 pm

Desert wrote:This is the first bike that completely scared the crap out of me, as a teenager. This exact model. I didn't own it, it was my uncle's bike. It was hard to keep the front end down when it hit the powerband. This is a 2-stroke, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebvt7JNXHwU
Cool! Thinking of my years gone by, did you/your uncle refer to the bike as a rice burner or a crotch rocket? ;D
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Post by Desert » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:45 am

Mountaineer wrote: Cool! Thinking of my years gone by, did you/your uncle refer to the bike as a rice burner or a crotch rocket? ;D
Definitely "crotch rocket." We reserved "ricer" for cars. :)

Sorry PS, we've totally ruined your thread with smoky engines.
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Post by Pointedstick » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:58 am

I'll admit I've never understood the appeal of those things. They're ear-splittingly noisy, incredibly dangerous, and super-polluting; a true hazard to life, limb, and the public peace.
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Post by l82start » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:30 am

how do you get super polluting from a streetbike? i thought the mpg was in the hybrid car or better range...
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Post by Mountaineer » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:53 am

Pointedstick wrote:I'll admit I've never understood the appeal of those things. They're ear-splittingly noisy, incredibly dangerous, and super-polluting; a true hazard to life, limb, and the public peace.
Perhaps this will help get your mind around the "crotch rocket" appeal. O0 Think Chuck Yeager in that first fastest man alive flight, cage fighting, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay climbing Mt. Everest in 1953, Die Hard movies, Buzz Aldrin, roller coaster junkies, even the first President Bush skydiving.
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Post by Pointedstick » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:15 pm

l82start wrote:how do you get super polluting from a streetbike?
By watching the linked video and looking at all the crap coming out of the tailpipe! I can't imagine those things had catalytic converters or any of the modern emissions control devices that have helped cities not smell like gas stations.
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Post by l82start » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:29 pm

vintage dirt bikes definitely spewed some fumes, but then there aren't enough them to pollute a city or many of them being ridden in a city for that matter... what with it being a dirt bike / motocross race bike... ;D

since i grew up around bikes like that, i still have fond memories of the smell of two stroke engines burning pre mix gas..... smells like fun to me...

i think i may have lost the thread a bit... for some reason i thought we were talking about street bikes, the terms crotch rocket and rice burner are descriptions of street bikes, i have never heard them used for a dirtbike..

IE - rice burner - a derogatory term for any bike made in japan, used by people that ride real motorcycles like Harley Davidson and triumph
- crotch rocket - a term of endearment or fear used to describe street bikes the are built like race bikes with an aerodynamic seating position and a big fast engine..
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Post by Mountaineer » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:39 pm

OK, OK ... I have helped divert the thread from the main topic. My apologies. Let's get real and return to wood/coal/buffalo chip burning stoves for heat, beef tallow candles, and whale oil lamps. Ahhhh, the magnificent odor. Anyone here ever think the smell of a windmill or solar panel had that same charm? Have you ever tried to make smores or roast a hot dog over a campsite "fire" of LED's? Besides, we can always wear respirators made of wet papyrus if the smoke gets too thick. There is far more to life than tweeking the last bit of electrons from the wall socket or living in a mega bee hive crammed together with thousands of other poor souls who have never walked barefoot in green grass and stepped in fresh bison poop. Just kidding ..... sort of. Back to my iPhone 7 Plus now for some real high tech "Trumped up" entertainment. ;)
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Post by Desert » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:19 am

Pointedstick wrote:I'll admit I've never understood the appeal of those things. They're ear-splittingly noisy, incredibly dangerous, and super-polluting; a true hazard to life, limb, and the public peace.
Yeah, I can understand that viewpoint. I'd probably feel the same way if I hadn't grown up where I did in the 70's and 80's. The 1970's was an amazing decade for motorcycle technology advancement. Every year the bikes made huge technological leaps. For a redneck kid interested in how things work, growing up in the middle of a cornfield with no computers, motor vehicles were a big attraction. And then finally being able to ride these beasts ... it was awesome. The acceleration felt blinding, as that 2-stroke powerband kicked in at a ridiculously high rpm. It was the biggest thrill on earth, short of flying a fighter plane. It was a different time.
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Post by I Shrugged » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:30 am

I had an RD350. For such a small motor, it was terrifying the way it would suddenly come into its powerband. I never got comfortable trying to figure out how fast I could crank the throttle without the wheel coming up unexpectedly.

It looked just like this one, and you see how easily he wheelies it.
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