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That makes sense to me, as fruit juices usually remove the fiber found in whole fruits.
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An interesting twist:

"A Leucine, Metformin and Sildenafil Combination Regresses Non-Alcoholic
Steatohepatitis (NASH) in Mice
Abstract Number: 260-LB
Date and Time: Sunday, June 12, 2016, 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Location: Poster Hall, 21-B, Integrated Physiology – Liver
This poster will share pre-clinical research testing NuSirt’s patented combination of
leucine, low dose metformin and sub therapeutic levels of sildenafil in mice induced
with NASH.
Results from the study demonstrated significant potential for the triple combination to
reverse NASH in mice. In fact, data showed that the treatment reduced liver fat by 43
percent, liver inflammation by 55 percent and fibrosis by 50 percent.
About Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) and Non-Alcoholic Steatohepatitis
(NASH)
Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) is a result of fat building up in the liver,
preventing the organ’s ability to remove toxins from the blood. It affects up to one-third of
the general population. Although there are no known causes for NAFLD, obesity, high
cholesterol, diabetes, and high blood pressure are all considered risk factors.
Non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) occurs in 10 to 30 percent of those with NAFLD. It
happens when the liver of a person with NAFLD becomes inflamed, causing severe liver cell
damage. Over time, this can result in permanent scarring and hardening of the liver. The
consequences of NASH include cardiovascular disease, liver cancer, and liver failure."

So it seems that low dose metformin, leucine (as found in whey protein and BCAAs), and sub therapeutic amounts of, yes, VIAGRA, have been found to markedly reduce fatty liver disease which causes diabetes and prediabetes in millions of cases! I'm already using the leucine with metformin but never had a need for Viagra....until now.

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Reub wrote:So it seems that low dose metformin, leucine (as found in whey protein and BCAAs), and sub therapeutic amounts of, yes, VIAGRA, have been found to markedly reduce fatty liver disease which causes diabetes and prediabetes in millions of cases! I'm already using the leucine with metformin but never had a need for Viagra....until now.

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If that's so then just use L-Citrulline which will be converted into Arginine and then into NO. Viagra is a toxic joke; a repurposed heart attack drug. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Well, I'm off of the metformin again. That stuff really saps my strength and makes me lethargic. I really don't know how doctors can prescribe it so freely.
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Reub,

Assuming you have fatty liver* it is likely a symptom of something of metabolically off in your body i.e. there is something metabolically off that is causing both the blood sugar issue (if it is still there) AND the fatty liver (again if you have it) . I see fatty liver on CT scans very frequently, but usually the people who have it are obese. Metabolic abnormalities are not my area of expertise. As I recall you were doing a number of very intelligent things, but if this is still persisting and is not gone away you might want to try something else. Personally I'd recommend chinese herbs under the diagnosis of a really good chinese herbalist.


*MRI (or liver biopsy) is definitive in the diagnosis of fatty liver. There are "false positives" of fatty liver on CT or US. If you were diagnosed on CT or US you might want to get a second opinion (from another radiologist). The criteria for fatty liver on CT used at the major academic liver center near me is:

Liver 30HU less than spleen on CT without IV contrast.
Liver 10 less than spleen on CT with IV contrast.
Ultrasound diagnosis of fatty liver is subjective.

Re: METFORMIN: I'm NOT recommending for or against it, but keep in mind not every patient reacts to any drug the same.
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Reub wrote:Well, I'm off of the metformin again. That stuff really saps my strength and makes me lethargic. I really don't know how doctors can prescribe it so freely.
Even upping the Vitamin B's??? I have berberine here but forgot what I got it for!
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Benko wrote:Assuming you have fatty liver* it is likely a symptom of something of metabolically off in your body i.e. there is something metabolically off that is causing both the blood sugar issue (if it is still there) AND the fatty liver (again if you have it) . I see fatty liver on CT scans very frequently, but usually the people who have it are obese. Metabolic abnormalities are not my area of expertise. As I recall you were doing a number of very intelligent things, but if this is still persisting and is not gone away you might want to try something else. Personally I'd recommend chinese herbs under the diagnosis of a really good chinese herbalist.
If you have a fatty liver, you are eating too much fructose and carbs for your level of activity. And to clear it up, you need to a few tablespoons of lecithin a day to your diet.
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MangoMan wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: Viagra is a toxic joke; a repurposed heart attack drug. Stupid is as stupid does.
Let's see if you still feel that way when you are in your 60's or 70's. I can't imagine just giving up on sex if there are other options.
Viagra is for unhealthy fat fucks with cardiovascular disease who can't get erections anymore because their penises are full of clogged arteries. Does that strike you as a path I'm going to take out of ignorance and sheer lazyness? Viagra is not an aphrodisiac nor a libido enhancer which is first necessary to even be interested in sex (and how well do obese, unhealthy, testosterone-dominate 60 and 70 year old women turn a man on???). Viagra just traps blood flow in the penis for an unnatural and hard erection. Nothing less, nothing more. It's overblown, overrated and for the idiotic. What do you expect of anything that makes it up to the lamestream level of middle-America Boobus Americanus discourse? Stupid is as stupid does. ::)

P.S. Same exact idiots that want to move to for-pofit "active adult" master-planned communities that are nothing but a step above nursing homes but with subdivisions. They're fooling only themselves.
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Lol!
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MangoMan wrote:I used to think that if men stayed fit, they would never get xxxxxxxxx.
I used to think that too, back in the late 80's to early 90's.
I also know quite a few people who have moved to active adult communities in their late 50's / early 60's and absolutely love it.
I never said such people couldn't love it; but they don't have high expectations to begin with.
Sometimes you tend to be a little myopic. What works [or will work] for you isn't the solution for all of mankind.
True, dat! I'm just saying... don't be a lemming. Wasted breath, I know! Stupid is as stupid does.
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New study shows that Viagra (sildenafil citrate) prevents heart attacks. At least for diabetics. And by a lot.

http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Health-Ne ... id/734016/

"In addition to boosting a flagging sex life, Viagra can also protect against heart attacks and heart failures, says a study from the U.K.'s University of Manchester. Researchers found that diabetic patients who took Viagra had a lower risk of suffering a heart attack or dying from heart failure than those who didn't take the drug.

Viagra, also known as sildenafil citrate, is normally used to treat erectile dysfunction (ED) by increasing blood flow to the penis. It works by inhibiting an enzyme called PDE5, which prevents smooth tissue from relaxing.

The study, which will be published in the journal BMJ Heart, involved 6,000 diabetic men who had been prescribed Viagra for ED. Researchers found that they had a much lower risk of having a heart attack or dying from heart failure than men who didn't take the pill, according to the Daily Express.

The current study isn't the only research to find that Viagra may be good for the heart. A 2014 study published in the journal BMC Medicine found that Viagra can prevent heart muscle from thickening and early stage heart failure. "
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Reub wrote:The current study isn't the only research to find that Viagra may be good for the heart. A 2014 study published in the journal BMC Medicine found that Viagra can prevent heart muscle from thickening and early stage heart failure. "
Lots of things "prevent heart attacks" but they don't have a huge industry behind it to fund such studies and promote on the lamestream media with the results. ::)

Now go find out the long list of side effects that this crap drug has and get back to us.
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The best yet? It was all out for only 20 seconds 3 times and low intensity the other 9 minutes. And only three times a week.

Twelve Weeks of Sprint Interval Training Improves Indices of Cardiometabolic Health Similar to Traditional Endurance Training despite a Five-Fold Lower Exercise Volume and Time Commitment

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0154075
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How many people will have heart attacks using that exercise program?
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Reub wrote:How many people will have heart attacks using that exercise program?
None that don't deserve to! ;)

I do recall another study that said for lazy fat fucks steady state moderate intensity was better for not turning them off to exercising. They can just move up to high intensity later after they're acclimated.

But geeze, 20 seconds of maximum effort is dangerous? That just goes to show you how out of touch with natural reality the lazy fat fucks truly are. No sympathy from me -- I sit on my ass too much as it is but at least I DO SOMETHING.
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